[mvgossman]

I have 4 HR20's thoughout the house, each one connected via HDMI cable to one TV in the same room. I also have each HR20 connected to an RF modulator to send, in standard definition, signal over my coaxial cable network for each of the roughly 6 other standalone TVs to view programming.

Well now I need another high-def set in a new room I'm adding. I'd rather not add another HR20 (that's another subject - is that doable without getting another satellite dish in parallel?) since I don't really need it so what I am seeking is a way to distribute the high-def signal from one of the HR20 to the new TV. I'd prefer some sort of HDMI->RF device that modules an ATSC high-def signal to broadcast to the digital off-the-air tuner in the new TV. However, I could also, if necessary, use some other solution that works with coaxial cable with a device at either end, or even string some cable, or perhaps there's a wireless solution that won't raise hell with my Wi-Fi or hog Wi-Fi bandwidth.

A less desireable solution would be to utilize some sort of HDMI splitter to share the signal coming from a single HR20, but this is less desireable because I'd rather have the ability to view the high-def signal from any of the HR20's and also because the nearest HR20 to the new room happens to be my wife hwo maintains a death grip on the channels there!

Having lots of trouble finding a solution for what must be a common issue - any suggestions?

 

[armophob]

Most new HD tvs will have 2 HDMI and 2 component inputs. I would find a way to run 2 component cables from 2 of the dvrs and set a remote to RF for both. Or run the component from the wifes box for HD and use the coax SD from another box

 

[mvgossman]

Dumb question: Does component deliver HD signal as well as HDMI?

Not so dumb question: Does an HDMI -> digital ATSC signal modulator exist outside of a broadcast studio and within the $ realm of mere mortals?

 

[armophob]

Dumb question: Does component deliver HD signal as well as HDMI?

Not so dumb question: Does an HDMI -> digital ATSC signal modulator exist outside of a broadcast studio and within the $ realm of mere mortals?

Yes, but not the dvr's 1080p, only up to 1080i. As to the second, I have never had a reason to research it. I am only now starting to use the hdmi cables.

 

[carl6]

Dumb question: Does component deliver HD signal as well as HDMI?

Yes

Not so dumb question: Does an HDMI -> digital ATSC signal modulator exist outside of a broadcast studio and within the $ realm of mere mortals?

No

 

[JeffTex42]

If you can settle on driving your one extra HD set from one specific HD-DVR, utilize the HDMI output and component outputs simultaneously - they're both active at the same time. I drive the LCD in my bedroom with HDMI and have the component + optical outputs going to the living room.

 

[rudeney]

You do not need another dish to add more receivers to your system. I assume you have a WB68 eight-port multiswitch that is full with four HR20’s? You can actually add another multiswitch. In my setup, I have each of the four lines from the dish split going into two WB68’s so I have a total of 16 ports. They also make a 16-port switch that would be a drop-in replacement for your 8-port.


Of course if you don’t want to go to the trouble and expense of adding another switch and receiver, do what others have suggested and use the analog component video cables to drive a second TV from one of the existing HR20’s. There may be some time in the future when the content owners (i.e. “Hollywood”) will demand that D* downgrade their programs to 480p over analog component video, but that has not yet happened. Unfortunately, in today’s world of copy protection, you can’s split an HDMI output (although you could switch it, but that means only using one of the two TV’s at a time).

 

[Cmnore]

Try a component to CAT5e/6 setup. Try these:

smarthome.com/7829DA2/Intelix-Component-Video-Digital-Audio-Balun-Pair-AVO-V3AD-PAC-F/p.aspx

 

[Ken S]

Dumb question: Does component deliver HD signal as well as HDMI?

Yes, at present it does, but this is the "analog hole" that brings nightmares to the MPAA. They are sprending a great deal of their lobbying money on trying to get that hole closed. I would expect that over time they will win out and component will be limited to 480P at best.

 

[n6nfg]

That would be catastrophic for my main viewing TV. I have an older Mitsubishi HD ready rear projection that only supports component for HD input. It doesn't have any form of digital inputs. 480P max for component would be unacceptable!

 

[rudeney]

I’d like to know who is lobbying *against* closing he analog hole. I’d like to send them my support. I think it is ridiculous that Hollywood is trying to make things difficult for millions of consumers that pay their profits all so they can protect themselves for a few months until the handful of bad guys figures a new way to get around the mousetrap.

 

[broncosaddict]

I use a hdmi matrix switch I got from monoprice for about $80 bucks. This allows you to have upto 4 hdmi sources attached to 2 tv's which can watch any of the 4 sources. The tv's can watch the same source or 2 different sources.

I have 2 hd dvrs, a media center and an xbox 360 hooked up. I have a projector in the living room and plasma in bedroom. If my wife is watching something I don't want to, I go in the other room and watch one of the other sources. I also have a pair of harmony 890 to control everything (as it's all stuffed in a closet).

The switch also comes with an ir remote control. They aren't always in stock, you just have to keep your eye out or have them notify you when they are in.

I can't post the link because this is my first post. However if you look at their switches, there is only 1 4 X 2 matrix switch.

 

[Lee L]

I'd like to know who is lobbying *against* closing he analog hole. I'd like to send them my support. I think it is ridiculous that Hollywood is trying to make things difficult for millions of consumers that pay their profits all so they can protect themselves for a few months until the handful of bad guys figures a new way to get around the mousetrap.

I am pretty sure the EFF is still against it. Probably some electronics industry folks also, due to backlash from owners with nothing but component. Of course they will not be very vocal about it as they want to keep hollywood happy also.

There is a device called the HD Fury that will supposedly give you a digital input for those old Mitsubishi sets. They advertise on AVS a fair amount. I may have even seen an ad or 2 on this side also. http://www.hdfury.com/ I pulled my 2001 Mits set out of my main system last year because my wife just could not stand the big box any more so she insisted we get a 58 inch Panasonic Plasma set.

 

[waltonjj]

So just to confirm, with the DirectTV HD DVRs we can push signal to 2 different TV's? One through HDMI and then run another coax cable out the back of the receiver to another TV in another room? Is this the same on the new HR22 as well?

Thanks for replying.

 

[krock918316]

So just to confirm, with the DirectTV HD DVRs we can push signal to 2 different TV's? One through HDMI and then run another coax cable out the back of the receiver to another TV in another room? Is this the same on the new HR22 as well?

Thanks for replying.

Not quite. There are no coax outputs on the HR2x units. You can output HDMI and Component at the same time. And both TV's will be showing the same channel.

 

[waltonjj]

right so same signal to 2 different TV's is what I'm trying to accomplish, so if the HR2x does not have a coax output can I convert component/signal to a coax cable since that's the only cable I have running to other room in the house?Thanks

 

[harsh]

That would be catastrophic for my main viewing TV. I have an older Mitsubishi HD ready rear projection that only supports component for HD input. It doesn't have any form of digital inputs. 480P max for component would be unacceptable!

You should begin exercising so you can reach your ankles now as the train is coming. It may not be a for a few years yet, but it is coming and nobody will be able to stop it.

 

[harsh]

right so same signal to 2 different TV's is what I'm trying to accomplish, so if the HR2x does not have a coax output can I convert component/signal to a coax cable since that's the only cable I have running to other room in the house?Thanks

No. As was pointed out previously in this thread, consumer ATSC modulators are a dream; one that will likely never be realized.

Until the analog hole is closed, you should be able to run another four RG6 and do component video and audio, but the sound will be two channel stereo. When the analog hole closes, you'll need an HDMI switch and a really long HDMI cable or media converters with a couple of CAT6 cables.

 

[carl6]

right so same signal to 2 different TV's is what I'm trying to accomplish, so if the HR2x does not have a coax output can I convert component/signal to a coax cable since that's the only cable I have running to other room in the house?Thanks

You can convert composite video/audio (yellow/red/white) to standard def modulated signal and send it over a single coax. That will be SD, not HD.

You can run multiple coax (3 for video, 2 for audio), or a very long component video cable, to get the component signal to another room. That will get you HD.

Carl

 

[d max82]

No. As was pointed out previously in this thread, consumer ATSC modulators are a dream; one that will likely never be realized.

Until the analog hole is closed, you should be able to run another four RG6 and do component video and audio, but the sound will be two channel stereo. When the analog hole closes, you'll need an HDMI switch and a really long HDMI cable or media converters with a couple of CAT6 cables.

By running the four RG6 lines you would be able to run component video over 3 RG6 lines and DD audio over the fourth, assuming you have a -100 model with the coax out, or the fairly inexpensive Toslink to Coax adaptors (check monoprice)