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How often does the guide update?

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The rain delay for tennis was not in the guide. I imagine both parties are at fault, but our boxes should be smarter...
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Guide data is downloaded to your receiver on a more or less constant basis. On the other hand, the time it takes for data to work through the system can vary greatly.
Stuart Sweet said:
Guide data is downloaded to your receiver on a more or less constant basis. On the other hand, the time it takes for data to work through the system can vary greatly.
If I connect the box to the internet would it update the guide data? 24 hours is enough time if you ask me..

Seems like they are lazy...
saleen351 said:
If I connect the box to the internet would it update the guide data?
No. Guide data comes from the satellite only.
saleen351 said:
The rain delay for tennis was not in the guide. I imagine both parties are at fault, but our boxes should be smarter...
Well, the update was not on my HD Tivo either, so that would mean that CBS or the local affiliates (or both) did not get the data to Tribune or Tribune did not process it quickly enough.

It may be quicker to get data for a cable channel updated like TNT than a network of channels like CBS with channels all over the country. In fact, the US Open update may have been up to the local channels as there were reports that at least two did not carry tennis on Monday.
guide data to the rcvr is on an ongoing and constant basis. on a practicle basis you get an update every hour and add about an hour to the guide, but the stream is constantly active.

On the basis of changing data in the guide (as when a program changes) that is much less frequent and probably occurs once per 24 hour period unless it is a critical update. Rain delays would not be critical
curt8403 said:
guide data to the rcvr is on an ongoing and constant basis. on a practicle basis you get an update every hour and add about an hour to the guide, but the stream is constantly active.

On the basis of changing data in the guide (as when a program changes) that is much less frequent and probably occurs once per 24 hour period unless it is a critical update. Rain delays would not be critical
This was a day long rain delay. Not just a few hours extending the tennis but pushing it all back a whole day. And that happened on Saturday, creating a match on Monday that was to be on Sunday originally.

I have seen rain outs in baseball on the EI channels appear almost instantly but that is in house to DirecTV. This case involved Tribune data that did not get updated for either DirecTV or Tivo.
curt8403 said:
guide data to the rcvr is on an ongoing and constant basis. on a practicle basis you get an update every hour and add about an hour to the guide, but the stream is constantly active.

On the basis of changing data in the guide (as when a program changes) that is much less frequent and probably occurs once per 24 hour period unless it is a critical update. Rain delays would not be critical
RF going for his 5th straight US Open is critical if you ask me... They probably knew more than 24 hours in advance that it was being moved..

This is why these boxes should connect to the internet to get guide data... instant..
saleen351 said:
RF going for his 5th straight US Open is critical if you ask me... They probably knew more than 24 hours in advance that it was being moved..

This is why these boxes should connect to the internet to get guide data... instant..
The problem here is who you mean by they. "They" could easily argue that you also knew about it 24 hours in advance and didn't schedule it. "They" in this sense would be your local CBS affiliate.

If you knew it would be delayed, why wait to confirm what you knew would happen?
saleen351 said:
RF going for his 5th straight US Open is critical if you ask me... They probably knew more than 24 hours in advance that it was being moved..

This is why these boxes should connect to the internet to get guide data... instant..
Are you suggesting that data from Tribune via the internet would be faster than data from Tribune via the satellite?

If not, then, what specific source on the internet would you suggest that these boxes connect to to get their data?

Or (and I have no intention of being argumentative) are you generically suggesting that "this data is available on the internet at large, there should be a way for our HD DVRs to access and respond to it"?
saleen351 said:
The rain delay for tennis was not in the guide. I imagine both parties are at fault, but our boxes should be smarter...
Are your saying your IRD should have known it was raining in NY and the tennis got rained out? :)
n3ntj said:
Are your saying your IRD should have known it was raining in NY and the tennis got rained out? :)
maybe it could sing "Rain, Rain, Go Away..."?
The guide information from the satellites is streamed fairly constantly for programs scheduled in the next 24 hours. Information for programs further away is sent down less often. Since the US Open Final was rescheduled for one day later, if CBS and Tribune had the data, we would have gotten it within minutes.
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