HR-34 set up too many tuners question

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tsbrady1

Discussion Starter · Feb 9, 2012

I just ordered an HR-34 and have a SWM8, I currently have 2) HR20-700's and 2) H24's. I am going to replace 1) HR20 with a new H24 and the other HR20 will be replaced with the HR-34, HOWEVER, I want to keep one of the HR20's for a few weeks so I can finish watching the recorded shows, is it possible to set it up in the system with "no tuner" so that I don't run in to too many tuner error issues?

Thanks in advance!

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john payne

· #2 · Feb 9, 2012

do you have the swm 8 spitter or the swm 8 multiswitch?

Go Beavs

· #3 · Feb 9, 2012

If you have a SWiM8, just plug the HR20 into the legacy ports and, while you won't be able to watch live HD, it will provide the signal necessary for the HR20 to continue working long enough to watch all your recordings.

veryoldschool

· #4 · Feb 9, 2012

Go Beavs said:
If you have a SWiM8, just plug the HR20 into the legacy ports and, while you won't be able to watch live HD, it will provide the signal necessary for the HR20 to continue working long enough to watch all your recordings.

This is a good option, and if there isn't a SWM8, then the option could be to leave a H24 out and configure the HR20 for single tuner mode, watch the recordings and then swap with the H24.

tsbrady1

Discussion Starter · #5 · Feb 9, 2012

do you have the swm 8 spitter or the swm 8 multiswitch?

I have a SWM 8 mutliswitch

If you have a SWiM8, just plug the HR20 into the legacy ports and, while you won't be able to watch live HD, it will provide the signal necessary for the HR20 to continue working long enough to watch all your recordings.

Go Beavs, excuse my stupidity but what is a legacy port!? and if I do this can I watch what's on the HR20 on my other Home Networked STBs

tsbrady1

Discussion Starter · #6 · Feb 9, 2012

VOS, Good Thought, you know all the answers!

Go Beavs

· #7 · Feb 9, 2012

tsbrady1 said:
do you have the swm 8 spitter or the swm 8 multiswitch?

I have a SWM 8 mutliswitch

If you have a SWiM8, just plug the HR20 into the legacy ports and, while you won't be able to watch live HD, it will provide the signal necessary for the HR20 to continue working long enough to watch all your recordings.

Go Beavs, excuse my stupidity but what is a legacy port!? and if I do this can I watch what's on the HR20 on my other Home Networked STBs

The legacy ports are on your SWiM8 module opposite the SWM1 and 2 ports. They pass the standard non-SWiM signals and as such are incompatable with the DECA signals. They don't count against the 8 tuner limit though.

The only way to continue to use WHDVR (MRV) service would be to use ethernet cat5 cables to connect your HR20 to your network.

tsbrady1

Discussion Starter · #8 · Feb 9, 2012

Go Beavs, thanks for the reply, I don't think I have a SWiM8 module unless that is the green thing that I thought was a splitter, but I will look at it and see if it matches your description. I have an L3 LNB with the multiswitch built in. Looking more and more like I will do what VOS suggested, that appears to be the easiest solution for my simple mind!

Go Beavs

· #9 · Feb 9, 2012

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SWiM8 module:

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Green 8-way MRV compatable splitter:

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extide

· #10 · Feb 9, 2012

I told them to transfer me to the retention line, then I told them that someone had previously promised me an HR-34 for $99. They did the deal. Install is scheduled for Tuesday the 14th.

I Have a SWM LNB, how many receivers do they support?

Currently I have an HR22, HR24, and an H24. I would like to replace the H24 with the HR34 if I can support that many receivers (9), if not I may switch the H22 to single tuner mode. Maybe they will have to upgrade me to SWM-16? What is the usual protocol ?

tsbrady1

Discussion Starter · #11 · Feb 9, 2012

Go Beavs, I've got:

Green 8-way MRV compatable splitter

BTW... thanks for all your help, I appreciate it!

Go Beavs

· #12 · Feb 9, 2012

extide said:
I told them to transfer me to the retention line, then I told them that someone had previously promised me an HR-34 for $99. They did the deal. Install is scheduled for Tuesday the 14th.

I Have a SWM LNB, how many receivers do they support?

Currently I have an HR22, HR24, and an H24. I would like to replace the H24 with the HR34 if I can support that many receivers (9), if not I may switch the H22 to single tuner mode. Maybe they will have to upgrade me to SWM-16? What is the usual protocol ?

SWM LNB supports 8 tuners. With 9 you'll need a SWiM16

tsbrady1 said:
Go Beavs, I've got:

Green 8-way MRV compatable splitter

BTW... thanks for all your help, I appreciate it!

Your welcome!

Stuart Sweet

· #13 · Feb 9, 2012

Here's some advice, take it for what it's worth.

If you boot up the HR34 after all the other receivers, it will only use as many tuners as it can, and it won't complain. If you are running 2 HR20s and 2 H24s, and you boot them all up first, the HR34 will turn into a 2-tuner DVR.

HOWEVER... this is a really unsupported and risky way of doing this because you never know when the system will try again to acquire all 5 tuners, and in doing so limit your access to the other receivers.

inkahauts

· #14 · Feb 9, 2012

I'd go vos route. Run one hr34, one hr20 in single tuner mode and two h24 till you get the shows off your hr20, then I'd replace the hr20 with the other h24, if I replaced it. I prefer all dvrs myself, since it's all the same price monthly.

tsbrady1

Discussion Starter · #15 · Feb 10, 2012

inkahauts said:
I'd go vos route. Run one hr34, one hr20 in single tuner mode and two h24 till you get the shows off your hr20, then I'd replace the hr20 with the other h24, if I replaced it. I prefer all dvrs myself, since it's all the same price monthly.

Yuuup!, that is what I am going to do, I will let the installer set up the H24/25 and not allow him to deactivate the HR20 and when he leaves I will just swap out the STBs and then deactivate the HR20 at a later date and re hook up the H24/25

Phil T

· #16 · Feb 10, 2012

My HR34 is on the way!

But I have a couple questions:

How do you set a HR2X to single tuner mode?

My system configuration will have 9 tuners but my Green 8 way MVR splitter will only handle 8. I don't necessarily want a SWiM16 since I like the single wire LNB.

Will the installer insist on installing a SWiM16?

Go Beavs

· #17 · Feb 10, 2012

Phil T said:
My HR34 is on the way! But I have a couple questions:

How do you set a HR2X to single tuner mode?

My system configuration will have 9 tuners but my Green 8 way MVR splitter will only handle 8. I don't necessarily want a SWiM16 since I like the single wire LNB.

Will the installer insist on installing a SWiM16?

To set the HR2x to 1 tuner, re-run the satellite setup and choose "single tuner" in the menus.

Remember, the SWM LNBs handle 8 tuners regardless of the type of splitter. 8 tuners, not 8 splitter ports.

inkahauts

· #18 · Feb 10, 2012

"Phil T" said:
My HR34 is on the way! But I have a couple questions:

How do you set a HR2X to single tuner mode?

My system configuration will have 9 tuners but my Green 8 way MVR splitter will only handle 8. I don't necessarily want a SWiM16 since I like the single wire LNB.

Will the installer insist on installing a SWiM16?

And just to clarify, the swim16 is still a single wire for runs. It's just you have two ports your runs start from, and each will do eight tuners. But as you have figured out, if you set your one hr to single tuner, you'll be back down to eight tuners.

BopMan

· #19 · Feb 15, 2012

inkahauts said:
And just to clarify, the swim16 is still a single wire for runs. It's just you have two ports your runs start from, and each will do eight tuners. But as you have figured out, if you set your one hr to single tuner, you'll be back down to eight tuners.

Phil T said:
My HR34 is on the way! But I have a couple questions:

How do you set a HR2X to single tuner mode?

My system configuration will have 9 tuners but my Green 8 way MVR splitter will only handle 8. I don't necessarily want a SWiM16 since I like the single wire LNB.

Will the installer insist on installing a SWiM16?

Just curious which approach is better - not taking into consideration installation requirements (pulling 4 wires vs. 1 to switch/splitter) - is utilizing a swim LNB a better approach than using a swim8 if 8 or less tuners are needed?

veryoldschool

· #20 · Feb 15, 2012

BopMan said:
Just curious which approach is better - not taking into consideration installation requirements (pulling 4 wires vs. 1 to switch/splitter) - is utilizing a swim LNB a better approach than using a swim8 if 8 or less tuners are needed?

When you're only using 8 or less tuners, the LNB has a performance advantage, simply because it doesn't have the cable loss between the LNB and the SWiM, that the SWM8 would.

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