HR20-100 over CAT5 using Component Video

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Gern Blansten

Discussion Starter · Sep 6, 2008

Hello Forum,
I hope someone can understand and help me. We want to install LCD TV on the wall in our bedroom and locate the HR20-100 in the basement and use the RF remote.

Our bedroom has a jack up high next to the power and inside is a CAT5 cable and two coaxial cables. I want to utilize the HD (720p) and want to use Component Video and I think you can do this over CAT5 cable and two extender jacks with RCA outlets on them.

Does anyone have any idea how to accomplish this or has anyone done this?

I would liek to avoid the box on the dresser in our bedroom and also an expensive visit from the sound guy.

Any help or thoughts are greatly appreciated.

GO VIKES!

Marc

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Grentz

· #2 · Sep 7, 2008

If you have the cat5 cable going directly from the bedroom to the receiver location you could use what is known as a balun.

This will use the cat5 cable exclusively for video though (no network) and it must be a direct run from the source to the destination (no hubs/switches/routers, etc.).

They look like this:
http://www.gemelec.com/compvideo.htm

One issue is that on a single cat5 cable you can only run the component (for HD video) and digital coax audio. If your TV does not have a coax audio in (single orange RCA plug), you will need to find another solution for audio as you cannot run standard RCA (red and white) audio with component on a single cat5 run via baluns.

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ironwood

· #3 · Sep 7, 2008

Grentz said:
If you have the cat5 cable going directly from the bedroom to the receiver location you could use what is known as a balun.

This will use the cat5 cable exclusively for video though (no network) and it must be a direct run from the source to the destination (no hubs/switches/routers, etc.).

They look like this:
http://www.gemelec.com/compvideo.htm

One issue is that on a single cat5 cable you can only run the component (for HD video) and digital coax audio. If your TV does not have a coax audio in (single orange RCA plug), you will need to find another solution for audio as you cannot run standard RCA (red and white) audio with component on a single cat5 run via baluns.

Very interesting. Is there any solutions to use coax cable in a similar manner?

Well my guess would be one can use 5 coax lines for long runs.

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bobnielsen

· #4 · Sep 7, 2008

From the specs, this might be a problem:

Bandwidth

Video: DC to 8 MHz (480l and 480p only).

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Grentz

· #5 · Sep 7, 2008

ironwood said:
Very interesting. Is there any solutions to use coax cable in a similar manner?

Well my guess would be one can use 5 coax lines for long runs.

With coax you can use single baluns, but it takes 1 coax line for each cable (so component video only is 3 coax cables).

bobnielsen said:
From the specs, this might be a problem:

Bandwidth

Video: DC to 8 MHz (480l and 480p only).

That is the second one on that page, the first one says:

Video: 480i/p: 1000 ft.(305M) 720p and 1080i: 500 ft (152M) - Digital Audio: 600 ft (182M)

Muxlab is one of the brands I know of and have heard being thrown around a lot. They make one that is component video and mono RCA audio over one cat5 if digital coax audio will not work for the application. It is model number 500053.

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DTVTech4U

· #6 · Sep 7, 2008

Grentz said:
With coax you can use single baluns, but it takes 1 coax line for each cable (so component video only is 3 coax cables).

That is the second one on that page, the first one says:

Muxlab is one of the brands I know of and have heard being thrown around a lot. They make one that is component video and mono RCA audio over one cat5 if digital coax audio will not work for the application. It is model number 500053.

too bad there insent an hdmi version, that would be too sweet

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techrep

· #7 · Sep 7, 2008

Grentz said:
If you have the cat5 cable going directly from the bedroom to the receiver location you could use what is known as a balun.

This will use the cat5 cable exclusively for video though (no network) and it must be a direct run from the source to the destination (no hubs/switches/routers, etc.).

They look like this:
http://www.gemelec.com/compvideo.htm

One issue is that on a single cat5 cable you can only run the component (for HD video) and digital coax audio. If your TV does not have a coax audio in (single orange RCA plug), you will need to find another solution for audio as you cannot run standard RCA (red and white) audio with component on a single cat5 run via baluns.

I have added the URL to my AV list of solutions.

I see that the OP has "ONKYO RECEIVER" in his list of equipment so, he probably is only interested in getting video to the display. This will provide the CAT5 solution with or without audio.

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DaaQ

· #8 · Sep 8, 2008

Another option to look for which is NOT available yet. Monster Cable's Wireless Digital Express HD system can send hd wirelessly and can send hd signal to the hdtv over coax.

ETA is 1st Q of 09 at app 300-600 and can do 480-1080p.

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protrex

· #9 · Sep 8, 2008

If the CAT5 and the two coaxes terminate in the same location without any splices, splitters, hubs, switches, or other obstructions (i.e. home runs) then you can do this:

http://www.svideo.com/500050nd.html - Use one of these baluns to deliver component video over CAT5.

You can then use the two coaxes to send Left/Right analog audio using standard F --> RCA adapters like these: http://www.cablesnmor.com/rca-f-connector.html - These convert a standard Coax F connector to RCA.

Overall if you lengths aren't obsessively long (150ft+) you should not have any problem with this setup.

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wingrider01

· #10 · Sep 8, 2008

DTVTech4U said:
too bad there insent an hdmi version, that would be too sweet

http://www.intelix.com/products/balun_audiovideo.htm

about midway down the page. Use the intelex units a lot. Definately not the cheapest on the pricing curve

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Grentz

· #11 · Sep 8, 2008

wingrider01 said:
http://www.intelix.com/products/balun_audiovideo.htm

about midway down the page. Use the intelex units a lot. Definately not the cheapest on the pricing curve

Note that the HDMI solutions require dual cat5/cat6 runs.

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