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HR20-700 Dual Input - Split or Diplexer

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I just received my HR20-700 and it requires two inputs from the dish to provide full functionality. I previously had just had HD receiver.

I've looked but can't seem to find an answer to what I think is a simple question.

Can I 'split' the current input from the dish to provide both inputs to the HR20?

What I think I've found as the answer is it requires a 'diplexer' (how is this different from a regular cable splitter?) but it is not obvious.

I don't have OTA as I live in a remote area in the western NC mountains.

I have another cable running to a second regular receiver in the back bedroom. If I cant' 'split' the current cable in the living room, can I use this cable as the second input to the HR20.

Thanks...JL
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you need 2 lines from dish to DVR.. splitting does not work..
houskamp said:
you need 2 lines from dish to DVR.. splitting does not work..
So the second line that is currently hooked to a non-HD receiver in the second room will suffice as the 2nd input to the HR20?
barring some realy weird hookup, yes it will..
:welcome_s to DBSTalk, mm1we!

When you add the 2nd line you will need to reboot the unit so it can detect the 2nd tuner on start up.
Just out of curiosity.... if you steal the cable from the back bedroom in order to feed the 2nd line of the HR20... what are you going to do with the receiver in the back bedroom?

Each receiver needs it's own line from the dish, DVR's, to use 2 tuners, need 2 lines. So if you steal that other cable, then the regular reciever back there is now out of commission... at least if I'm understanding your scenario correctly....
Your 5-LNB dish has a built-in multiswitch in the LNB pack (nosecone) that will feed 4 tuners. You just run a coax from one of the ports to the receiver.

If you have more than 4 tuners, you need a Zinwell WB68 multiswitch. 4 lines come from the LNB on the dish to the first 4 inputs on the switch, and it has 8 outputs.
IIP said:
Your 5-LNB dish has a built-in multiswitch in the LNB pack (nosecone) that will feed 4 tuners. You just run a coax from one of the ports to the receiver.

If you have more than 4 tuners, you need a Zinwell WB68 multiswitch. 4 lines come from the LNB on the dish to the first 4 inputs on the switch, and it has 8 outputs.
Assuming you are answering my question this seems to be conflicting advice. Houskamp say I simply must have two lines from the dish to the DVR. Now IIP is saying a multiswitch is built into the LNB pack. But IIP doesn't say how I get this into the two different inputs on the back of the DVR.

I'm not sure my confusion is easing any.

As for Sharkie_Fan's question the back bedroom receiver would be unused until something changes. That TV is rarely on in any case.

I appreciate the input so and welcome more...JL
mm1we said:
Assuming you are answering my question this seems to be conflicting advice. Houskamp say I simply must have two lines from the dish to the DVR. Now IIP is saying a multiswitch is built into the LNB pack. But IIP doesn't say how I get this into the two different inputs on the back of the DVR.

I'm not sure my confusion is easing any.

As for Sharkie_Fan's question the back bedroom receiver would be unused until something changes. That TV is rarely on in any case.

I appreciate the input so and welcome more...JL
Right now you only have two lines coming from the dish (one to the HD DVR and one going to the other room), correct?

If that is right you can run another line from the dish to the HD DVR (if you are able to) so the HD DVR will have two lines so it can use both tuners and the other room can still have the receiver connected.

The dish has a total of up to 4 outputs on it.
Assuming you have the Standard Slimline Dish you can run a total of 4 lines from it to 4 tuners. This can be to two DVRs or 4 receivers. If you need more than 4 tuners then you run the 4 lines from the dish to a multi-switch. the Zinwell multi-switches in use are the 6X8 and the 6X16. 6X8 can provide DirecTV signals for up to 8 tuners and the 6X16 provides up to 16.
mm1we said:
Assuming you are answering my question this seems to be conflicting advice. Houskamp say I simply must have two lines from the dish to the DVR. Now IIP is saying a multiswitch is built into the LNB pack. But IIP doesn't say how I get this into the two different inputs on the back of the DVR.
Actually, I did. I said: "You just run a coax from one of the ports to the receiver."

To clarify further: your DVR needs 2 lines from the dish by itself, plus whatever lines you need to any other receivers. Based on the limited infor provided, I believe you have 1 HD-DVR and one standard receiver, correct? That means you need a total of 3 lines from the dish, but you currently only have 2 lines from the dish. You need to run an additional line from the dish to the HD-DVR.

The integrated LNB/multiswitch supports a total of 4 lines. Without an external multiswitch, it will run 4 tuners. DirecTV DVRs have 2 tuners, and need 2 lines, and non-DVR receivers need 1 line.

If you previously had 4 tuners in use, and now with the HD-DVR swap you had 5, you would need to use an external multiswitch to add more ports. The switch will require all 4 lines from the dish feeding its input ports, and supplies a total of 8 output ports.
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IIP said:
Actually, I did. I said: "You just run a coax from one of the ports to the receiver."

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Thanks houskamp, Michael, Sharkie, jwd, and IIP for your responses.

It is clear now that I _must_ run an additional line from the dish (or I suppose more correctly from the LNB) to the back of my DVR or steal the one from the other receiver and leave that receiver without any use.

For now we are just using the single input and only recording during non-watching hours which was our previous behavior anyway.

Again, I appreciate all the responses with the limited information I was able to provide. "You've solved another one"...JL
mm1we said:
For now we are just using the single input and only recording during non-watching hours which was our previous behavior anyway.
Realize once your DVR fills up live TV will become pretty unimportant, so just having one tuner on a DVR isn't that big of a deal. Two tuners doesn't solve much if you record a lot of shows anyway.
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