Thanks and yes, I have two coax to each receiver and I think you're right that they are BBCs. So, what does it mean to install SWiM? Is that inside my house or is it a dish issue and will the installer automatically do that or is there additional equipment I need to pay for? Will I also need DECA (and what is that)? Sorry for my ignorance. I'm usually pretty good with this stuff, but I'm pretty far behind the newer DTV setups.veryoldschool said:I'm guessing you currently have two coax connected to each DVR.
"If so", then you don't have SWiM [single wire], and the boxes connected to the back of the receivers are BBCs, and not DECAs.
The HR34 only has one input, so SWiM is a must.
Excellent info, thanks so much. I assume I will need to add the DECA to the HR34 AND to each of my 5 HR receivers, Is that right?carl6 said:You will keep the same dish, but the 6x16 multiswitch will be replaced with an SWM16. Five DVRs = 10 tuners plus 5 tuners in the HR34 = a total of 15 tuners which is within the capacity of the SWM16.
With the SWM16, each of your DVRs will be served with a single coax rather than two (the second one can just lay idle as a spare). Each DVR will need to be reconfigured (in satellite setup) for SWM, have the BBC removed (if there is one), and have a DECA added. If they are connected to the internet, that connection will be removed as the DECA interface will provide that functionality.
As to cost, you will have to discuss that with DirecTV.
DECA is DirecTV Ethernet over Coax [Adapter], which is part of the HR34, might be on some of your other DVRs, if they're HR24s.RMSko said:Thanks and yes, Will I also need DECA (and what is that)? Sorry for my ignorance. I'm usually pretty good with this stuff, but I'm pretty far behind the newer DTV setups.
Question for you... in another thread, a guy with a bunch of HRs on SWiM wants an HR34, but not WHDS. If he were to just put an HR34 in place of an old HR (without doing anything else), does he have the potential of damaging the existing boxes with the HR34 sending out DECA "hellos"? (I know, he should use DECAs or at least BS filters on the other boxes, but what if he doesn't?)veryoldschool said:The HR34 basically means you'll need to move to both SWiM & DECA, since it can't disable its internal DECA.
Let's certainly hope so! To date, I've never had a smooth D* install, but maybe this will be the first one. Let's hope he brings all the right stuff. My order shows Home Media Center Client Installation (TV) and MRV Install so I assume I will not be charged anything more for my install.dwcolvin said:The bottom line in all of this is your installer is going to have a busy Friday, and you're going to get your money's worth on the install. If all goes well, it should be transparent to you.
You can connect your HR34 to your TV just like you can the HR22. It sounds like you're using HDMI to the receiver and HDMI from the receiver to a TV, and that will work just fine. (If you're using the optical digital connection on the HR22, you'll have to switch to coaxial digital, or get some kind of adapter).RMSko said:Let's certainly hope so! To date, I've never had a smooth D* install, but maybe this will be the first one. Let's hope he brings all the right stuff. My order shows Home Media Center Client Installation (TV) and MRV Install so I assume I will not be charged anything more for my install.
Am I right that the HR34 will connect to my TV (in my case my Denon A/V receiver) the same way that my current HR22 does (i.e., direct to the Denon and not through another D* receiver) since I don't have any RVU TVs?
Also, am I right that I won't need a CCK (I'm not sure what that would've done anyway since I presently am able to watch Cinema on demand)?
First lets look at what happens by just adding a HR34:dwcolvin said:Question for you... in another thread, a guy with a bunch of HRs on SWiM wants an HR34, but not WHDS. If he were to just put an HR34 in place of an old HR (without doing anything else), does he have the potential of damaging the existing boxes with the HR34 sending out DECA "hellos"? (I know, he should use DECAs or at least BS filters on the other boxes, but what if he doesn't?)
Perfect, that is exactly how I'm connecting my setup > HDMI from HR34 to the Denon and HDMI from the Denon to the TV. I will also have an Ethernet connection from my home router (via an Ethernet switch) to the HR34 and it's great that I will no longer need a separate Ethernet connection from all my other HRs as running and maintaining those connections has been a real pain. I'm really looking forward to this setup and hoping for a clean install.dwcolvin said:You can connect your HR34 to your TV just like you can the HR22. It sounds like you're using HDMI to the receiver and HDMI from the receiver to a TV, and that will work just fine. (If you're using the optical digital connection on the HR22, you'll have to switch to coaxial digital, or get some kind of adapter).
If you connect an Ethernet cable (attached to your home network) directly to the HR34, you will not need any kind of CCK, although your installer may not know that. You will remove the existing Ethernet connections from all other HRs (they will connect using DECA)
Thanks. So the worst case is the other HRs not working until properly BSed... it can't cause permanent damage?veryoldschool said:The HR34 doesn't, so things get trickier/harder to mix & match with older setups...
DECA/SWiM/WHDS is very well engineered. Excellent technology. Getting there from the old way of doing things is non-trivial, however.RMSko said:Perfect, that is exactly how I'm connecting my setup > HDMI from HR34 to the Denon and HDMI from the Denon to the TV. I will also have an Ethernet connection from my home router (via an Ethernet switch) to the HR34 and it's great that I will no longer need a separate Ethernet connection from all my other HRs as running and maintaining those connections has been a real pain. I'm really looking forward to this setup and hoping for a clean install.
"Can't & permanent" aren't things I want to exclude, but "shouldn't", I'm comfortable with.dwcolvin said:Thanks. So the worst case is the other HRs not working until properly BSed... it can't cause permanent damage?
If you have a DECA that bridges to your home network [a BB DECA or CCK] then this will be your connection to your router and internet, so the DECA in/on the receivers won't need any changes to the networking.RMSko said:When I go from a direct Ethernet connection to a receiver to a DECA setup, after I run setup and change it to an SWM setup, will I need to do anything to change the internet connection, or will it automatically change it and connect to the internet after I run it thru the SWM setup?
Thanks, but I was wondering more vis-a-vis the s/w of all my other HRs, i.e., will I need to reconfigure my internet connections, or will it automatically happen as soon as I connect DECA and go through the SWM setup?veryoldschool said:If you have a DECA that bridges to your home network [a BB DECA or CCK] then this will be your connection to your router and internet, so the DECA in/on the receivers won't need any changes to the networking.
"If" you have the CCK connected/powered up, "then" there is nothing needed to be set/configured in the receivers.RMSko said:Thanks, but I was wondering more vis-a-vis the s/w of all my other HRs, i.e., will I need to reconfigure my internet connections, or will it automatically happen as soon as I connect DECA and go through the SWM setup?
I thought with the HR34 you don't need a separate CCK. Is that correct or is there some benefit to having CCK with an HR34 (assuming the HR34 is networked with other HD DVRs)?veryoldschool said:"If" you have the CCK connected/powered up, "then" there is nothing needed to be set/configured in the receivers.
