Keep the HR21
Replace the H21. You'll have seven tuners, newer receiver
Replace the H21. You'll have seven tuners, newer receiver
DOH! Typo there. Was planning on swapping out two H21's and keeping the HR21 for a total of 3 DVR's.naijai said:Keep the HR21
Replace the H21. You'll have seven tuners, newer receiver
Why don't you replace one H21 with an HR2X and the other H21 with an HR34. Then you have it all!grover517 said:Looking to upgrade to WHDVR service.
Already have one DVR (HR21), 2 H21's, 1 H24. Was debating on replacing either one HR21 with an HR34 to give me 7 tuners or replacing 2 H21's with DVR's which would be 6 tuners.
Price quotes from D are about the same (within 10 bucks either way).
The HR34 is the latest and greatest and as a geek, it is always tempting to have the latest "stuff", but spreading the risk with multiple DVR's in the event one takes a dive would allow more flexibility as well as allowing more expansion of storage should I choose to add external drives to all three DVR's.
So leaving the "geek temptations" at the door, and only considering interoperatibility in a WHDVR setup, features, storage capacity, etc, what would you choose and why?
Although I haven't yet called retention to see if I can get any better price points on this upgrade, the current upfront cost of what you are proposing would negate the deal entirely for me. I am currently looking at about 450.00 which is already pushing it.RACJ2 said:Why don't you replace one H21 with an HR2X and the other H21 with an HR34. Then you have it all!
I totally disagree with the 34 statement. My HR34 is quite dependable having only missed 1 recording in 3-1/2 months of service. I do multiple recordings on various DVR'S to check the effectiveness. I may even replace a couple of DVR's with another 34 later this summer."T-Mac" said:I'd stay away from the 34. I wish I had. I'm starting to think this box was overly ambitious and now Direct has a piece of hardware that is spec'd beyond their capability to program it.
It is slow to operate and very buggy.
I wish I had spent my $99 (new customer upgrade) to get two HR24s rather than the HR34 and an H25.
(By the way, I'm not totally down on DIRECTV. I love the picture quality and the H25 is a dream to use. That box is super fast and works great!)
Didn't realize I would lose trick play capabilities without a DVR at the remote end. That is a biggie for all concerned parties in the house. That just might be a deal breaker for the HR34.carl6 said:My personal preference is HR2x series as opposed to HR34. DVR at each TV gives me trick play (pause/rewind/etc) at each TV which you don't get with an HR34 and a non-HR at remote tv location. Also, spreads tuners across more boxes/drives so you don't have a single point of failure. On the other side, HR34 has PIP and an additional tuner in your setup.
I would expect new stuff like the HR34 to be a little buggy out of the gate, so not that concerned about that. D* has been pretty good over the years of resolving other issues.T-Mac said:I'd stay away from the 34. I wish I had. I'm starting to think this box was overly ambitious and now Direct has a piece of hardware that is spec'd beyond their capability to program it.
It is slow to operate and very buggy.
I wish I had spent my $99 (new customer upgrade) to get two HR24s rather than the HR34 and an H25.
(By the way, I'm not totally down on DIRECTV. I love the picture quality and the H25 is a dream to use. That box is super fast and works great!)
Do you think the recording that was missed was due to a glitch in the software? Or rather maybe that a priority was incorrect, or was not executed correctly by the HR34? Depending on which recording might get missed (such as a soap opera, Survivor, American Idol, etc), I could be spending the night in the back seat of my car parked in the garage! :grin:jagrim said:I totally disagree with the 34 statement. My HR34 is quite dependable having only missed 1 recording in 3-1/2 months of service. I do multiple recordings on various DVR'S to check the effectiveness. I may even replace a couple of DVR's with another 34 later this summer.
There are some issues with the 34 but no show stoppers.
I've tried to stay quiet on this issue, but I really think putting five tuners on an HR with only a 1TB drive is, for someone like me, absolutely useless. I have 12 active HRs and back everything up multiple times. You can't do that with the 34. You lose the 34 and all your recordings are lost. You cannot back up programming on it. Even with a 2TB drive on it, it will fill up quickly (no, you're not gonna fill it up overnight or during a week, but before you know it, the HDD will be full).grover517 said:Do you think the recording that was missed was due to a glitch in the software? Or rather maybe that a priority was incorrect, or was not executed correctly by the HR34? Depending on which recording might get missed (such as a soap opera, Survivor, American Idol, etc), I could be spending the night in the back seat of my car parked in the garage! :grin:
I think it was just a glitch as my other STB's correctly recorded it. I have also has the opposite where the 34 cancelled a rerun and the other HR's recorded it even though the series is set at first run only."grover517" said:Do you think the recording that was missed was due to a glitch in the software? Or rather maybe that a priority was incorrect, or was not executed correctly by the HR34? Depending on which recording might get missed (such as a soap opera, Survivor, American Idol, etc), I could be spending the night in the back seat of my car parked in the garage! :grin:
Let us know which model you get it hooked up."grover517" said:Well, decision has been made (maybe).
I called retention and they wouldn't budge on the HR34 cost, but got a good deal on going the two DVR upgrade route. About half of what I was originally quoted.
So as with many things in life, money ends up being the deciding factor.
One of the other stipulations was that they installed the WHDVR setup with a multiswitch rather than the LNB upgrade because I have a legacy receiver I MUST keep. Otherwise, the whole deal goes out the window.
The agent said she couldn't get the system to accept the WHDVR setup without also including a SD receiver upgrade of my one single (and owned) RCA legacy receiver which is rock solid and controls the one remaining ReplayTV I will be keeping around.
So she notated on the order that they need to install a SWM 8 or 16 instead of an LNB upgrade and then I have to discuss it with the install tech on Friday. The multiswitches have legacy ports for a reason, but D* just can't leave it alone can they?
Why does everything have to be so stinkin difficult!??![]()
If it's not a line item on the work order the installer is not going to install it."grover517" said:Well, decision has been made (maybe).
I called retention and they wouldn't budge on the HR34 cost, but got a good deal on going the two DVR upgrade route. About half of what I was originally quoted.
So as with many things in life, money ends up being the deciding factor.
One of the other stipulations was that they installed the WHDVR setup with a multiswitch rather than the LNB upgrade because I have a legacy receiver I MUST keep. Otherwise, the whole deal goes out the window.
The agent said she couldn't get the system to accept the WHDVR setup without also including a SD receiver upgrade of my one single (and owned) RCA legacy receiver which is rock solid and controls the one remaining ReplayTV I will be keeping around.
So she notated on the order that they need to install a SWM 8 or 16 instead of an LNB upgrade and then I have to discuss it with the install tech on Friday. The multiswitches have legacy ports for a reason, but D* just can't leave it alone can they?
Why does everything have to be so stinkin difficult!??![]()
I understand what you are saying. Trust me, after hours on the phone with D*, I was well aware of the problems I might run into with them over this. That is why I initially considered just doing the WHDVR upgrade myself instead of D* doing it, and might just end up doing that anyway.naijai said:If it's not a line item on the work order the installer is not going to install it.
"NOTATING" the order is not going to change what the installer is going to receive for your install
He won't be given a SWM 16 because it was notated. What is going to be on the order is based on your existing equipment. You have a total of 8 tuners which the SWM Lnb will support. The RCA will be required to be replaced if you want the whole home service. There is a way out as you said, money money money. Purchase your own SWM 8 or 16 that way you don't have to lose the RCA receiver. Don't want you wait till install day and get into an argument with installer and other agents.
Anomaly on the quantity but not on reliability concerns.Rich said:I've tried to stay quiet on this issue, but I really think putting five tuners on an HR with only a 1TB drive is, for someone like me, absolutely useless. I have 12 active HRs and back everything up multiple times. You can't do that with the 34. You lose the 34 and all your recordings are lost. You cannot back up programming on it. Even with a 2TB drive on it, it will fill up quickly (no, you're not gonna fill it up overnight or during a week, but before you know it, the HDD will be full).
For casual viewers I'd guess it's a fine piece of equipment, but I'd rather have 24 tuners and 20 TBs of recording capacity to play with.
I do realize I'm an anomaly....:lol: