HR34 what is required?

Yes, you have run out of available tuners on your SWM8. However, the swap for a SWM16 is not just a plug and play. A SWM16 is really like 2 SWM8s in one unit. Each output of the SWM16 can support upto 8 tuners. So, in addition to swapping the switches, you'll also need to connect the HR34 to a different port on the SWM16 than your older receivers.

IOW...

SWM16 SWM port 1 >>>> 2 way or 4 way splitter >>>> HR24 & HR20 (4 tuners)
SWM16 SWM port 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HR34 (5 tuners)

There are other ways of doing it, like HR34 and HR20 on one port (7 tuners) and the HR24 (2 tuners) on the other, but you get the idea. You can't have more than 8 tuners on each leg of the SWM16.

There are other considerations when installing the SWM-16 as well. Make sure you are using the fewest and smallest splitters possible, and make sure that the power inserter you're using is also rated for SWM-16, or you'll need a new one of those.

I have the same dish set up with 4 wires coming from the dish ti a 8 way splitter. ? I thought the dish had to change to a 1 wire and then to a green splitter.

Kerry said:

I have the same dish set up with 4 wires coming from the dish ti a 8 way splitter. ? I thought the dish had to change to a 1 wire and then to a green splitter.

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The single wire SWiM LNB is only good for 8 tuners. It is the four wire that can accommodate the SWiM 16.

static2229 said:

I just purchased a new HR34 unit. I currently have a SWM8 setup with (4) coax runs from the dish going into the SWM. Currently on the SWM8 setup I have:

1 - HR20-700
1 - HR24
1 - H10 (Legacy Port)
1 - Older Unit (Legacy Port)

When I added the HR34 into the mix, it worked, but only showed signal on tuners 2, 3, & 5. I assume this is because I have the SWM8 and not the SWM16. Is this correct?

Is it simply a matter of installing the SWM16 inplace of the SWM16 since I have the (4) coax runs already? Any help is appreciated.

Thanks!!!

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If you wish to keep using the SWM8, you can disable one of the tuners on the HR20 or HR24. That would leave you using only 8 tuners.

I have the Zinwell WB68 with 4 wires from my dish with 1 hr21 so I could add the 34 and just hook up one wire. Is this correct?

Kerry said:

I have the Zinwell WB68 with 4 wires from my dish with 1 hr21 so I could add the 34 and just hook up one wire. Is this correct?

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No. The HR34 requires SWiM. The Zinwell is a standard multiswitch, not a SWiM (Single Wire Multiswitch). The Zinwell needs to be replaced, either with a SWiMLNB, or a SWiM-8 or SWiM-16. The SWiMLNB and the SWiM-8 support up to 8 tuners and the SWiM-16 supports up to 16 tuners. You'll also need the correct Power Inserter to power the SWiM and probably at least one green label splitter.

David Ortiz said:

No. The HR34 requires SWiM. The Zinwell is a standard multiswitch, not a SWiM (Single Wire Multiswitch). The Zinwell needs to be replaced, either with a SWiMLNB, or a SWiM-8 or SWiM-16. The SWiMLNB and the SWiM-8 support up to 8 tuners and the SWiM-16 supports up to 16 tuners. You'll also need the correct Power Inserter to power the SWiM and probably at least one green label splitter.

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Ok do I need to replace the 5 feed horn mounted to the dish to a single wire output as well? It has 4 wires coming out now.

Kerry said:

Ok do I need to replace the 5 feed horn mounted to the dish to a single wire output as well? It has 4 wires coming out now.

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That is one way to go. Assuming you have the current AU9 dish, you could replace the LNB assembly with one that has SWiM built in. (SWiMLNB)

If instead you go with a SWiM-8 or SWiM-16, then you would leave the 5 feed horn intact and use the same 4 wires coming from the dish.

Hmm, I have a SWiM 16 using 9 tuners & thought I'd be all set for an HR34 in the next month or so. However, I forgot that it's actually two SWiM 8 legs. I'll bet we have one leg feeding the house (with 7 tuners) & one leg feeding the man cave (with 2 tuners). The man cave is above the shop & not attached to the house. Each of the two legs go to another switch, right, where the individual cables run to each room? So, I'd have to move two cables (or one DVR) from one switch to the other. Does the CCK take up a tuner? It takes up a cable.

CCK does not take up a tuner. And yes, you will have to move some cabling so you don't exceed 8 tuners per each SWiM 16 output. Another poster recommends only using 4-way splitters and that way you won't exceed the eight tuners on either leg.

I have a couple more questions.

- With a SWM8 you have the output that can support 8 tuners worth, but you also have the legacy ports. Does this mean that the SWM8 will support the 8 tuners + 2 legacy tuners or will it only support 8 tuners period?

- I notice that the HR24 and HR34 receiver see the same List of recorded shows. Is this because both have built in DECAs? If so, what is required to hook this connection as a whole to the internet to get VOD, etc? Do you just need to hook one of the receivers up to a router, or would both need to be hooked up?

I am learning and I appreciate the help and advice.

Thanks!!!!

static2229 said:

I have a couple more questions.

- With a SWM8 you have the output that can support 8 tuners worth, but you also have the legacy ports. Does this mean that the SWM8 will support the 8 tuners + 2 legacy tuners or will it only support 8 tuners period?

- I notice that the HR24 and HR34 receiver see the same List of recorded shows. Is this because both have built in DECAs? If so, what is required to hook this connection as a whole to the internet to get VOD, etc? Do you just need to hook one of the receivers up to a router, or would both need to be hooked up?

I am learning and I appreciate the help and advice.

Thanks!!!!

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The legacy ports are separate from and do not count against the 8 SWiM tuners. The legacy ports don't work with B-band converters, so they are really only good for non MPEG-4 boxes.

DO NOT connect an ethernet cable to the HR24. It is ok to connect an ethernet cable to the HR34, which will bridge both receivers to the Internet.

I believe the legacy outputs (on both SWM8 and SWM16) DO support the HD satellites and the use of BBCs. In fact I know they do, because I have an HR2x DVR set up that way.


Keith

David Ortiz said:

The legacy ports are separate from and do not count against the 8 SWiM tuners. The legacy ports don't work with B-band converters, so they are really only good for non MPEG-4 boxes.

DO NOT connect an ethernet cable to the HR24. It is ok to connect an ethernet cable to the HR34, which will bridge both receivers to the Internet.

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Why do you stress not to connect an Ethernet cable to the HR24?

PokerJoker said:

I believe the legacy outputs (on both SWM8 and SWM16) DO support the HD satellites and the use of BBCs. In fact I know they do, because I have an HR2x DVR set up that way.

Keith

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The legacy ports on the SWiM-16 do support HD and the use of BBCs. The legacy ports on the SWiM-8 are different and only receive signal from 101°, 110°, and 119°.

static2229 said:

Why do you stress not to connect an Ethernet cable to the HR24?

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If you connect an ethernet cable to the HR24, the internal DECA is disabled.

Sri for kinda hijacking this but: My HR24 presently has a PI attached. If I were to replace the 24 with a 34, can I just simply detach the cable (with the PI attached) from the 24 and connect it to the HR34?