If ll the work was done already you might find yourself out of a yob.
Install pet-peeves.....
I really hate it when I arrive on the "yob" for an install at a 300K+ home and there is only one line from the outside in...............:nono2:
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Let's put some perceptive on this. You being from Atlanta have a much different perspective of a 300k house than us from CA. A 300k house here will be in poorville (even in today's market) and few people would even be able to afford satellite. An installer probably would not want to go through most of those neighborhoods.SebastianBlack said:I really hate it when I arrive on the "yob" for an install at a 300K+ home and there is only one line from the outside in...............:nono2:
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I was thinking the same thing. Everything is relative.
Here are some $300K single-family houses in Central New Jersey.
Certainly comfortable -- neither impoverished nor luxurious. I don't think an installer would be concerned about visiting any of these neighborhoods. But I would not expect any of these homes to be prewired with multiple leads to each room.
Certainly comfortable -- neither impoverished nor luxurious. I don't think an installer would be concerned about visiting any of these neighborhoods. But I would not expect any of these homes to be prewired with multiple leads to each room.
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So tiny!Upstream said:Here are some $300K single-family houses in Central New Jersey.
Yeah, it really is relative. $300,000 here would get you 2,500 sq ft and 2 acres.
But of course I still wouldn't expect any houses here pre-wired :lol:
Well here in the South (Georgia), the prices have not reached that ridiculous stage...yet!
How about going to an $8,000,000 house to find it was wired with RG59, and split behind the walls? This was 2 years ago; LONG before the SWM technology existed. It ended up being over $600 in custom work to re-wire the house, mostly through the crawlspace (actually, 3 separate crawlspaces) and then fished UP to the second floor at two locations.
Wait---you are an installer and actually show up??? Wow--how unusual. Rarely ever happens for me.SebastianBlack said:I really hate it when I arrive on the "yob" for an install at a 300K+ home and there is only one line from the outside in...............:nono2:
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Installee's pet-peeves..... Having 300,000 plus house and only needing four lines and getting six or seven holes drilled, vinyl siding broken,dish not property aligned and having to wait four hours after scheduled appointment for the privilege. It works both ways.
I think what he's getting at is when you've got one wire from the outside travelling above a finished, drywalled basement to a utility room in the middle of the house, where everything is then split.
I was working near Cedar Rapids and a whole subdivision of houses were wired like this. Of course, the joyces were running the wrong way to fish new wire in.
Me thinks the LV guys knew somebody at the cable company.
I was working near Cedar Rapids and a whole subdivision of houses were wired like this. Of course, the joyces were running the wrong way to fish new wire in.
Me thinks the LV guys knew somebody at the cable company.
i love the installers that act like they aren't expendable assets.
or showing up to a $1 mil house and the customers b***h and complain to D*tv about having to pay a custom charge
I'm from the south and I asked the D installer how he installed in these new houses with roofs almost vertical. He said most of the new houses were pre wired so it wasn't a problem. But still if he had to put a dish on the roof he has to install it and run wire to where it goes in the house. I don't feel sorry for these guys who chose to be installers. I'm an independent contractor in a different business with my own set of problems and it is just part of doing business.
All you guys want a " trained professional installation technician"mishawaka said:i love the installers that act like they aren't expendable assets.
But you only want to pay for an expendable asset.
Then you have the nerve to ***** and complain about your shoddy FREE install because you didnt want to pay any custom work charges.
In the real world this is why PIA customers always get several rescheduled work orders and fast and crappy installs.
There are some real loser techs out there but keep treating all of them with that attitude and thats all that will be left. Then who will come and fix your precious tv.
For all the other descent customers just treat the tech with a little respect when he shows up at your door and the rest will take care of itself. If you do get a loser politely ask him to leave and they will get someone better for your install.
Ok rant over.
We dont want your sympathy.rustynails said:I'm from the south and I asked the D installer how he installed in these new houses with roofs almost vertical. He said most of the new houses were pre wired so it wasn't a problem. But still if he had to put a dish on the roof he has to install it and run wire to where it goes in the house. I don't feel sorry for these guys who chose to be installers. I'm an independent contractor in a different business with my own set of problems and it is just part of doing business.
I do whatever the install requires for each location I stop at. Some are pre-wired 45 min installs and some are 5 hr nightmares. It goes with the territory. Just dont whine cause Im taking too long or because Im a little late. Or alot late for thjat matter. Do you really want me to cut corners and hurry up to get to my next appt while Im working at your house or just do that at the jobs before you ???
I treat each and every customer like they are my only job for the day while Im at thier location. The same if I were at your house or the guy who happened to have the install right before you.
Sorry Rusty , not entirely aimed at you.
Well said. Although I was talking about my peeve. I too treat each customers home like it was my own. I can be pissed all day but in the end the install, upgrade, service call all get completed regardless of the difficulty. We work through adversity, heat , stress and attitudes all in the days work.NYCEGUY01 said:We dont want your sympathy.
I do whatever the install requires for each location I stop at. Some are pre-wired 45 min installs and some are 5 hr nightmares. It goes with the territory. Just dont whine cause Im taking too long or because Im a little late. Or alot late for thjat matter. Do you really want me to cut corners and hurry up to get to my next appt while Im working at your house or just do that at the jobs before you ???
I treat each and every customer like they are my only job for the day while Im at thier location. The same if I were at your house or the guy who happened to have the install right before you.
Sorry Rusty , not entirely aimed at you.
Wow. Seventeen posts in this thread and more than ten of them are either off topic, flaming the OP, or bordering on personal attacks.
Guys, I understand one or more of you may have had a bad install (or no install at all) but do you really feel the need to always jump on someone for no reason other than him/her being an installer?
Guys, I understand one or more of you may have had a bad install (or no install at all) but do you really feel the need to always jump on someone for no reason other than him/her being an installer?
exactly my point. installers are an expendable asset. if you get a bad one that shows up, tell him to get out, then keep trying to find one of the few competent ones. satellite dish installation ain't rocket science.NYCEGUY01 said:All you guys want a " trained professional installation technician"
But you only want to pay for an expendable asset.
Then you have the nerve to ***** and complain about your shoddy FREE install because you didnt want to pay any custom work charges.
In the real world this is why PIA customers always get several rescheduled work orders and fast and crappy installs.
There are some real loser techs out there but keep treating all of them with that attitude and thats all that will be left. Then who will come and fix your precious tv.
For all the other descent customers just treat the tech with a little respect when he shows up at your door and the rest will take care of itself. If you do get a loser politely ask him to leave and they will get someone better for your install.
Ok rant over.
I really like how these guys keep saying how easy this stuff is to install.
Wjy do you know-it-all's keep calling in and having us come out if its so easy ???
Wjy do you know-it-all's keep calling in and having us come out if its so easy ???
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