Install scheduled, did I ask for the right equipment?

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GhostRider

Discussion Starter · Dec 13, 2006

I have a install scheduled for Monday Dec 18 and wanted to make sure that I have requested the right equipment and be sure that if the installer chooses different equipment to install I will still be set for my plans I have in the future.

The TV is have is a Sony KDS-R60XBR2. This will be the only TV hooked up for now but I may add a second non-highdef tv later. I have selected the silver HD package with Showtime for the next few months.

From research I have done on this forum and elsewhere I requested the following equipment:

Receiver: ViP 622
Switch: DPP44
Dish: Dish 1000 plus

I selected the dpp44 since I would like only one cable to have to be run to my 622 receiver which is preferable to me since I live in an apartment and would like to create as few new holes as possible.

Now if the installer chooses to use a different dish such as the 1000 which switch would be installed, or would the switch be integrated into the LNB of the 1000? How would using a 1000 vs the 1000+ effect me in later adding the second TV. I tried to find out as much as I could from searching the forums but still couldnt find what I was looking for so any help is appreciated!

I have verified all the cabling will be RG6. If I need to provide more info than I have here let me know and I'll post as soon as possible.

Thanks again for any help anyone can give me!

Oh also from what I can tell with the silver package I need to be tuned in to the sats at 110°, 119°, and 129° correct?

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eatonjb

· #2 · Dec 13, 2006

the 1000+ will pickup the 118, 119, 110 and then 129 sat.

118 is for Local HD's and 129 is pretty much for the HD's

if you cant get 129 cause of tree's or an area where 129 is not good reach, they can install a 500+, and a 500 and point the 500 @ 61.5 for your HD's

the Plus dishs are the only ones that can get the 119 and 118 at the same time.

the DPP44 can be used with either one. the 34 will not work with a Plus dish, but will work fine if you are not going for 118, but as you said you would need to run 2 cables to your 622, witch you said you did not want

good luck
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GhostRider

Discussion Starter · #3 · Dec 14, 2006

So if I am installed with a dish 1000 (not the 1000+) and if hd locals were ever offered in my area in the future then I would have to be upgraded at a later time to the 1000+ ? Would I have any reason to request a 1000+ since local HD channels are not offered?

Thanks for the input and help. From the dish aiming guide I found on the forums in my area code of 740xx I need the following adjustments 209 Azimuth, 41 Elevation, 117 skew.

Is the 61.5° in this range somewhere? What I think I am asking is at what approximate azimuth location is the 61.5° sat? From my apartment balcony I have clear views from about 160 az through about 310 az. Thanks again for all the help.

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Stewart Vernon

· #4 · Dec 14, 2006

If you only have 1 TV now, and only have future plans for one more TV in the near future... I doubt you will get a DPP44 unless you pay for it, because you simply don't need it.

A Dish1000 or 1000+ would feed TVs in two different rooms, and would allow you to use just one cable on the ViP622 (using the included separator).

Only reason you would need a DPP44 is if you were planning on connecting more TVs than the 2 you mentioned in your post.

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GhostRider

Discussion Starter · #5 · Dec 14, 2006

HDMe said:
If you only have 1 TV now, and only have future plans for one more TV in the near future... I doubt you will get a DPP44 unless you pay for it, because you simply don't need it.

A Dish1000 or 1000+ would feed TVs in two different rooms, and would allow you to use just one cable on the ViP622 (using the included separator).

Only reason you would need a DPP44 is if you were planning on connecting more TVs than the 2 you mentioned in your post.

Ok, what switch or device would be used instead of a dpp44?

Thanks again, this is really helping out alot.

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Stewart Vernon

· #6 · Dec 14, 2006

GhostRider said:
Ok, what switch or device would be used instead of a dpp44?

Thanks again, this is really helping out alot.

No additional switch needed. The Dish1000 or 1000+ has a built-in switch that provides the necessary functionality.

Not to confuse you more than necessary... but if for any reason you needed a two-dish setup like a Dish500 or 500+ and a Dish300 (I have this configuration myself incidentally)... you still would not need another switch if you just want to feed 2 different TV locations.

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screen1st

· #7 · Dec 14, 2006

Just to confirm what HDMe stated, i have a 2 dish setup without a switch. The 1000 has 3 outputs, 1 of which is routed back with a loopback cable to the internal switch, leaving 2 cable feeds, 1 for each dish. For the 622, a seperator is used (located behind the TV) to feed both inputs to the 622 (only 1 hole in the wall).

My setup is a little more complicated, follow me here... To get the 622's TV2 out to my bedroom, a diplexer is used (between the seperator and wall jack) to piggy back the TV2 out onto the single drop and up into the attic (still only 1 hole in wall in living room). In the attic, another diplexor is used to get the TV2 out signal out of the main feed and yet another diplexer to get the TV2 out into the secondary feed to the bedroom. And, you guessed it, another seperator in the bedroom to seperate the secondary feed (dish to 510) from the TV2out which goes to the antenna input of my 2nd TV.

Confused? My apologies. I went through all of this so you can get an idea of how to get the TV2OUT to your 2nd TV along with a 2nd dish. I highly recommend this because you can finish your shows in bed by just pausing and restarting in the 2nd room (even if someone was watching something else in the bedroom). In addition, you can see the HD channels in your bedroom even if they are only shown in SDEF.

Good luck with your install (i had to guide my installer). Watch closely, and be informed as you are attempting to do is the only way to go.

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GhostRider

Discussion Starter · #8 · Dec 14, 2006

Right on, that clears up alot of questions I had on how cabling would go for my setup. I'll get confirmation on the equipment the installer will be bringing tomorrow and may have some more questions.

Thanks again for all the help guys!

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boba

· #9 · Dec 14, 2006

Are you ordering any international channels? Unless the programming ordered requires a plus dish they won't install one. If you later order internationals that require a plus dish the existing dish will be updated. For 61.5 your azimuth will be around 120 degrees.

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GhostRider

Discussion Starter · #10 · Dec 14, 2006

boba said:
Are you ordering any international channels? Unless the programming ordered requires a plus dish they won't install one. If you later order internationals that require a plus dish the existing dish will be updated. For 61.5 your azimuth will be around 120 degrees.

Right on, so I wont be able to get a second dish aimed at the 61.5 sat unless I move. I dont plan to order internationals so I'm starting to think a Dish 1000 will be in my future. If Hd locals were provided down the road would that require a 1000+ to pickup the 118 as mentioned earlier by eatonjb?

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Jim5506

· #11 · Dec 14, 2006

You won't need a second dish aimed at 61.5 if the installer is VERY careful to align the Dish 1000 to optimize the 129 satellite (signal level in mid 70's).

My 129 was running in the mid 60's and had frequent dropouts, so I bought a dish 500 on ebay and added it to my array pointing it at 61.5 (mirror of 129) and now my signal strengths are in the upper 80's for those channels.

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