[dserban]

Thank you

 

[joshjr]

Why would you want east coast feed if you are on the west coast?

 

[curt8403]

Thank you

high def or standard. do you have locals or no

 

[ajc68]

I would love to have access to the east coast HD feeds so I could watch/record network programming (including Letterman) three hours earlier.

 

[w6fxj]

If you can talk your local ABC, CBS, Fox or NBC stations into giving you a written waiver, you can give it to DirecTV and they will allow you to pay for and receive the east coast SD stations (channels 380, 382, 386 or 388) until February of 2009 when they go away altogether. You can try the DirecTV waiver route but will probably get turned down. I doubt that your local stations will do this as it reduces their viewership. Curreent law prevents DirecTV from allowing you to receive east coast HD stations.

 

[goldduster]

I now have the East Coast SD feeds on the West Coast - They took away my HD feeds even though I should have been grandfathered in. Does anyone know what is planned for these SE feeds after 2/09?

 

[joshjr]

If you can talk your local ABC, CBS, Fox or NBC stations into giving you a written waiver, you can give it to DirecTV and they will allow you to pay for and receive the east coast SD stations (channels 380, 382, 386 or 388) until February of 2009 when they go away altogether. You can try the DirecTV waiver route but will probably get turned down. I doubt that your local stations will do this as it reduces their viewership. Curreent law prevents DirecTV from allowing you to receive east coast HD stations.

Why would it go away after the digital transition? I doubt all locals nationwide will be in HD by then. They are required to be digital by then but not HD.

 

[carl6]

I am not aware of the east coast SD feeds "going away altogether" in/after February 2009. Please don't confuse the digital conversion with SD or HD.

You should be able to get distant network feeds with an RV account. You might look into that.

Carl

 

[fluffybear]

Why would it go away after the digital transition? I doubt all locals nationwide will be in HD by then. They are required to be digital by then but not HD.

Some will argue that those waivers are good for only analog signals and with analog going away, all waivers become null and void.

To be perfectly honest unless something is formally announced, we will just have to wait until February and see

 

[joshjr]

I probably need to read up on this alot more but I dont think analog is going away. The local cable office here is analog and all they plan on doing to get around it is to have the signal come in through a digital box of some kind like people are getting for OTA now so that they wont have to have everyone get the digital boxes. Its going to be bsuiness as usual for them. Am I missing something?

 

[curt8403]

Some will argue that those waivers are good for only analog signals. With analog going away, all waivers become null and void.

one would argue that SD is SD whether it is Analog or Digital. waiver will not become null nor void.

special note.

(When you see a post of mine that starts with One, that means the Wolf that resides within is the one posting, The Bear that collects the Bad simply goes Grrrrrrr)

 

[fluffybear]

one would argue that SD is SD whether it is Analog or Digital. waiver will not become null nor void.

I think you read a little to much into what I said.

 

[harsh]

SHVERA dictates that outside of those grandfathered for SD DNS, you can't have both local and DNS. HD is treated differently by the U.S. Copyright Office and that's a whole other can of worms that figures into the DNS picture.

My understanding is that the East Coast HD DNS aren't available to West Coast subscribers period and the SD DNS from the opposite coast are only available to those who are grandfathered.

 

[curt8403]

I think you read a little to much into what I said.

One is not assuming that you are doing the arguing. just that some are.
and Josh, Analog is indeed going away, but Standard Def will still be around. It will just be a Digital Signal.

says hello

 

[joshjr]

SHVERA dictates that outside of those grandfathered for SD DNS, you can't have both local and DNS. HD is treated differently by the U.S. Copyright Office and that's a whole other can of worms that figures into the DNS picture.

My understanding is that the East Coast HD DNS aren't available to West Coast subscribers period and the SD DNS from the opposite coast are only available to those who are grandfathered.

Interresting. When I had my waivers submitted I was told that I could only get east coast. I got NBC SD approved and am getting east and west coast feed. Not sure whats up but I am not complaining either.

 

[l8er]

.... Am I missing something?

OTA (over the air) analog is going away in February of 2009. Cable is not OTA and is therefore not affected, although they will be picking up a digital OTA signal for local stations and converting it to analog if that's what the cable system is based on.

 

[joshjr]

OTA (over the air) analog is going away in February of 2009. Cable is not OTA and is therefore not affected, although they will be picking up a digital OTA signal for local stations and converting it to analog if that's what the cable system is based on.

Yeah but what I am asking about is why would that mean that SD DNS would go away? I dont get it. SD DNS is not OTA.

 

[l8er]

Yeah but what I am asking about is why would that mean that SD DNS would go away? I dont get it. SD DNS is not OTA.

I believe I answered the question you asked in the post I responded to.

I probably need to read up on this alot more but I dont think analog is going away. The local cable office here is analog and all they plan on doing to get around it is to have the signal come in through a digital box of some kind like people are getting for OTA now so that they wont have to have everyone get the digital boxes. Its going to be bsuiness as usual for them. Am I missing something?

I don't see any reference to DNS, SD or otherwise.

And FWIW, DNS were set up to reach people who cannot receive network stations over the air with a rooftop antenna. Over the years, there has been way too much abuse of the DNS system by people who should never have been receiving them in the first place.

 

[joshjr]

I believe I answered the question you asked in the post I responded to.

I don't see any reference to DNS, SD or otherwise.

And FWIW, DNS were set up to reach people who cannot receive network stations over the air with a rooftop antenna. Over the years, there has been way too much abuse of the DNS system by people who should never have been receiving them in the first place.

Well East West coast feeds are DNS are they not? I thought that was understood. Also its not just for people that can not get signal, if you can get your DMA to sign the waiver then its open to anyone. I got one approved already and I am in a Grade A signal area but D* does not provide me any locals without DNS. Now that being said I think that my real signal is a grade B and that pushing it but we shall see what happens. I have other waivers pending and if it dont work out then I am set to buy and antenna. I dont feel bad for applying for waivers though. In order to get the channels I need a large directional antenna so this was an option I thought worth exploring first.

 

[harsh]

OTA (over the air) analog is going away in February of 2009.

This is only mostly true. There will continue to be a number of low-power analog stations and transponders for an indefinite period.