Vip 722 and a Dish 1000.
It's me reddice. Finally upgrading to a HDTV but have questions?
I am getting a 32" 1080P Toshiba HDTV and I want to upgrade my Dish 510 to a HD receiver. Right now I have a Dish 500 and a second dish pointing at 61.5. I have Dish Network currently hooked up to 4 510 receivers. I want to upgrade my receiver to a 612VIP for one TV. I currently have one line coming into my room. I can't have any more holes drilled since recently we had all new windows put in. I am wondering can they make that one line into two tuners. I head that they can do that with the DP44 switch.
What are the HD channels NYC locals and regular HD channels on. I heard that they are on 129 and 61.5. When I called them up they said that they would upgrade me to a Dish 1000 and a VIP receiver for $75 with 2 year agreement. That sounds good but what hardware is needed. Does the 44 switch need power because it can be plugged into the back windows that were not replaced yet.
Also how reliable is the 612VIP? I am only using it on one TV. 200 hours of SD content or 30 hours of HD content is plenty. Should I opted out for a 722. Does the 612 have a Ethernet cable. I am just all new to this?
What are the HD channels NYC locals and regular HD channels on. I heard that they are on 129 and 61.5. When I called them up they said that they would upgrade me to a Dish 1000 and a VIP receiver for $75 with 2 year agreement. That sounds good but what hardware is needed. Does the 44 switch need power because it can be plugged into the back windows that were not replaced yet.
Also how reliable is the 612VIP? I am only using it on one TV. 200 hours of SD content or 30 hours of HD content is plenty. Should I opted out for a 722. Does the 612 have a Ethernet cable. I am just all new to this?
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So what you are saying is that the 612VIP is not okay. I have plenty of hours of recording time with it and I am only using it for one TV.
Also would I only need a Dish 1000. I have one line coming in that has to be split into two and have 3 standard 510 receivers that have to be hooked up.
Also would I only need a Dish 1000. I have one line coming in that has to be split into two and have 3 standard 510 receivers that have to be hooked up.
The 722 is a bit more mature technology than the 612. Theoretically, it should be more stable than the 612 but from what I read here, the 612 seems to perform pretty well. The 722 allows dual buffering, pip, and ability to feed a second signal to a SDtv. You could lower costs by dropping one of the 510 receivers plus have DVR functionality for the HDTV and a SDTV. The dual buffering and pip options are not something that I would use. However, if you're a super sports fanatic, pip and dual buffering allow you to watch two games at one time.reddice said:So what you are saying is that the 612VIP is not okay. I have plenty of hours of recording time with it and I am only using it for one TV.
Also would I only need a Dish 1000. I have one line coming in that has to be split into two and have 3 standard 510 receivers that have to be hooked up.
I would go with a 722 and replace two receivers as it will work two tv's independently. You will save an additional receiver fee and maybe a dvr fee. Also, NY HD locals are on 61.5 as well as SNY (I am in NY dma so I do know). You have no need for a Dish 1000 as your two dish setup is fine (and parts of NY have problems even viewing 129). If you hook the 722 to output one, the receiver should power the DPP44 switch and you can make use of the DPP Separator to feed both tuners. The 722 does have eithernet, not sure of the 612.
I'm with garys on this one. You have a D500 and 61.5 then you are good to go. I'm in Central NJ and have the D500 pointed at 110, & 119, and a Second dish pointed at 61.5 and get all the NYC locals Plus HD. I have the VIP622 and a VIP612. I specifically got the 612 for that TV set as I got tired of being called for how do I get rid of that box in the corner of the screen (PIP).
For myself the PIP is handy and a VIP722 will store more video than the 612 or the 622. However the 612 was cheaper.
The DPP44 will let them use one line to the 612 or 722 with a separator, the trick is getting them to use it as they cost a lot more than running a second line. When you order specify a DPP44 as a part of the upgrade. The local DNSC tech was saying they aren't allowed to carry them anymore unless needed due to the cost and because to many techs were doing installs with them to save time running more lines.
Good Luck
For myself the PIP is handy and a VIP722 will store more video than the 612 or the 622. However the 612 was cheaper.
The DPP44 will let them use one line to the 612 or 722 with a separator, the trick is getting them to use it as they cost a lot more than running a second line. When you order specify a DPP44 as a part of the upgrade. The local DNSC tech was saying they aren't allowed to carry them anymore unless needed due to the cost and because to many techs were doing installs with them to save time running more lines.
Good Luck
I suspect that all the future DVR boxes will have ethernet and homeplug in them. Incremental cost and the theoretical benefit of PPV over the internet. My VIP622 setup very easy. Plugged in the ethernet cable from the wired router and done. a minute later I was looking at the DishOnline offerings. Too cheap to pay for them of course but nice to know they are there for future need.
Operationally the 622 and the 612 are more similar than different. Some things are moved in the menus.
If money isn't tight then go for the VIP722 otherwise go for the VIP612. Neither one will let you down. The least tech savvy person in the house had no problem learning the 612 after a 721 (not 722) and has learned how to set a timer choosing from all the options.
There will be a slight learning curve after the 510 but not to bad.
Operationally the 622 and the 612 are more similar than different. Some things are moved in the menus.
If money isn't tight then go for the VIP722 otherwise go for the VIP612. Neither one will let you down. The least tech savvy person in the house had no problem learning the 612 after a 721 (not 722) and has learned how to set a timer choosing from all the options.
There will be a slight learning curve after the 510 but not to bad.
I opted for the 612 receiver because the lady said that she could not lease a 722 for just one TV. I wanted the 612 anyway. When I called I was on the phone for about a half hour. I could barely understand the woman but she said that the HD channels on 129. My local stations are on 61.5. Maybe they will come and install both. 61.5 is still there but maybe they will swap my Dish 500 for a Dish 1000. Worst case is that they leave it the way it is and just connect my main line to the 612. Can the 612 run with one tuner and the over the air tuner. I know you won't have duel tuning but does it work or not.
And you believed her?
The number of TV's you have is none of DishNetworks business. You can lease any DVR you are willing to pay the lease fee for.
I know of persons who put a 622 or 722 on an SD TV set, just because they hadn't bought the HDTV yet.
The number of TV's you have is none of DishNetworks business. You can lease any DVR you are willing to pay the lease fee for.
I know of persons who put a 622 or 722 on an SD TV set, just because they hadn't bought the HDTV yet.
I been wanted to get a HDTV for a while. I could always afford despite my gripes here it it is just that my Grandmother which is the owner of the house would not let me get one. My old crappy analog TV 27" monstrosity which I still don't know how I am going to take out of my small room with its only RF connector is starting to go so now I can get one. Can't wait to watch all of the primetime network shows in HD. I never viewed HD except for demos at the electronics store.
I recently ordered a 722 for just one tv, but then I already have a wireless a/v distribution network.
Count me into that group. I got the 622 first and enjoyed the better quality of the HD feeds as well as the HD only channels. Then I got the HDTV. The 612 is still hooked up to to a 27" (29"?) Sony SDTV. One thing at a time. I sort of justified the 1st HDTV as I use it for TV and the computer monitor. Wireless KB & Mouse to complete the computer setup. KB has encryption of course as it is wireless.Jim5506 said:And you believed her?
The number of TV's you have is none of DishNetworks business. You can lease any DVR you are willing to pay the lease fee for.
I know of persons who put a 622 or 722 on an SD TV set, just because they hadn't bought the HDTV yet.
One thought.reddice said:I been wanted to get a HDTV for a while. I could always afford despite my gripes here it it is just that my Grandmother which is the owner of the house would not let me get one. My old crappy analog TV 27" monstrosity which I still don't know how I am going to take out of my small room with its only RF connector is starting to go so now I can get one. Can't wait to watch all of the primetime network shows in HD. I never viewed HD except for demos at the electronics store.
If you have basic cable get a QAM capable HDTV. I can tune my locals on my HDTV off of basic cable that I keep along with the cable internet. That would be WCBS, WNBC, Fox, WABC, WWOR, CW11, WNET, WLIW and a few others. Plus that gets me the subchannels such as the 24hour weather and so on.
The other thing to look at when buying is a VGA port for computer input. That makes it real easy to hook up to your computer. That lets me Browse teh internet, Play all types of video as well as DVDs full screen.
And as has been said you shouldn't need 129 dish.
I am getting my LCD TV tomorrow and I hope they install my 612VIP receiver. Just have a quick question. For the east coasters. Is all the non-local HD channels on 61.5 and 129 or is their some only on 129?
Also can the 612VIP receiver run with one satellite tuner and a over the air tuner? Does it need both satellite tuners to run?
Also can the 612VIP receiver run with one satellite tuner and a over the air tuner? Does it need both satellite tuners to run?
FYI - you can review it all from the The EKB on DBSTalk link at the top of every page.
Thanks. I could not find the channel chart.
About my other question. Will it work with one tuner. It is only temporary because I know when they come to install the 612VIP they are not going to have a DP44 switch and they are going to let me order one and then they will come back to install it. It has not been the first time that has happened.
About my other question. Will it work with one tuner. It is only temporary because I know when they come to install the 612VIP they are not going to have a DP44 switch and they are going to let me order one and then they will come back to install it. It has not been the first time that has happened.
I see the HD channels on 129 are also duplicated on 61.5 so then I really don't need a superdish and a wing dish. I just need a wing dish and a Dish 500 which I already have. They would conflict as I see them on the same channel numbers for both satellites. Also why are the HD channels duplicated so many times in the 4000's, 9000's etc.
What other receivers do you have? A DPP Twin can serve up two tuners on two receivers without the rather expensive DPP44.
The problem I have is that I have 3 other single tuner receivers. I only need one for two tuners. Never understood why the switches only have 4 outputs and now it is even worse with the new ones only having 3 outputs. What if you want to hook up 4 TV's. It's a big mess.
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