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KCET and an act of God

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Does anyopne know whether the continual blanching in color owes to KCET itself, Dish, some peculiarity of my Panasonic TV, or a Act of God in retribution for a perceived editorial slant
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I assume from the paucity of replies that nobody else has noted this peculiarity

Unless like the inset video of the Model 4900, it's a malfunction built into the Dish receiver
KCET (Los Angeles Channel 28 PBS) does seem to have an overall grainy, almost snowy looking picture. I think they do broadcast digital, so I don't know what's up with the feed Dish network gets.
I've noticed this every time I've looked for months.
KCET has had this grainy problem off and on for some time. The grainy/noisy video is from the analog broadcast signal. I believe this problem is caused by KCET not broadcasting at full power. In other words, I think it is KCET's fault. I view KCET in one room using the ATSC OTA of the 722 and have no big problems, but KCET's digital signal is rather low compared to the other LA ATSC stations.

Your best option is to call both Dish and KCET and make them aware of the problem. Then it will have a better chance of getting fixed.
I have had a longstanding correspondence with Ergen himself on the poor quality of KCET.

The first letter was forwarded to vice presidents and then to field engineers and I had people on the phone within 2 hours! I was very impressed.

The technical problem was that the signal was being taken off-air, then uplinked. KCET, like most primary PBS stations in the US, does not have a retransmission agreement with Dish. Dish is allowed by law to take the NTSC signal off air but not the digital signal, nor does it have a direct fiber feed from the station to the POP.

Dish arranged for an improved temporary feed of some sort after that first letter, and it looked great for a month or so. The engineer warned me it was a temporary patch and it would go away, but said some sortof agreement between Dish and the PBS stations was near.

Since then I have read Ergen refuses to pay for PBS signals. We only get a good feed for the rimshot, secondary affiliates like KOCE and KVCR.

As a result, we not only do not get a HDTV PBS primary affiliate, we get a terrible analog signal.

It is incredible what we are missing. KCET-HD has pictures that are outstanding. The local cable KCET not only blows away Dish's poor analog pictures, it blows away the HD signals on Dish.

As for politics, I cannot help but think that politics are what are behind Ergen's refusal to pay for PBS like cable and DirectTV do.

I am very, very disappointed with Dish. For the amount of money he pays for channels I don't watch, the pittance asked for by PBS affiliates should be no obstacle. I mean, the NFL network as basic? Come on.
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Ooooh! Ooooh! A new member! Isn't there a hazing ritual here or something!
zumahans said:
I have had a longstanding correspondence with Ergen himself on the poor quality of KCET.

The first letter was forwarded to vice presidents and then to field engineers and I had people on the phone within 2 hours! I was very impressed.

The technical problem was that the signal was being taken off-air, then uplinked. KCET, like most primary PBS stations in the US, does not have a retransmission agreement with Dish. Dish is allowed by law to take the NTSC signal off air but not the digital signal, nor does it have a direct fiber feed from the station to the POP.

Dish arranged for an improved temporary feed of some sort after that first letter, and it looked great for a month or so. The engineer warned me it was a temporary patch and it would go away, but said some sortof agreement between Dish and the PBS stations was near.

Since then I have read Ergen refuses to pay for PBS signals. We only get a good feed for the rimshot, secondary affiliates like KOCE and KVCR.

As a result, we not only do not get a HDTV PBS primary affiliate, we get a terrible analog signal.

It is incredible what we are missing. KCET-HD has pictures that are outstanding. The local cable KCET not only blows away Dish's poor analog pictures, it blows away the HD signals on Dish.

As for politics, I cannot help but think that politics are what are behind Ergen's refusal to pay for PBS like cable and DirectTV do.

I am very, very disappointed with Dish. For the amount of money he pays for channels I don't watch, the pittance asked for by PBS affiliates should be no obstacle. I mean, the NFL network as basic? Come on.
It's amazing that Dish is getting a crappy signal from KCET. I moved here in 2005 from San Francisco and KCET has been grainy ever since. Where is the local Dish POP located. I cannot believe that they cannot get a decent picture on KCET or KMEX over the air. What are they using, some 19.95 antenna form Radio Shack?

Los Angeles is the seconde largest TV market in the country. KMEX is the highest rated TV station in LA. KCET is among the most watched (in terms of volume) PBS stations in the nation and Dish refuses to put up a decent picture on either one. One this is for certain...February 17, 2009...They will have to use the digital signal.
zumahans said:
I have had a longstanding correspondence with Ergen himself on the poor quality of KCET.

The first letter was forwarded to vice presidents and then to field engineers and I had people on the phone within 2 hours! I was very impressed.

The technical problem was that the signal was being taken off-air, then uplinked. KCET, like most primary PBS stations in the US, does not have a retransmission agreement with Dish. Dish is allowed by law to take the NTSC signal off air but not the digital signal, nor does it have a direct fiber feed from the station to the POP.

Dish arranged for an improved temporary feed of some sort after that first letter, and it looked great for a month or so. The engineer warned me it was a temporary patch and it would go away, but said some sortof agreement between Dish and the PBS stations was near.

Since then I have read Ergen refuses to pay for PBS signals. We only get a good feed for the rimshot, secondary affiliates like KOCE and KVCR.

As a result, we not only do not get a HDTV PBS primary affiliate, we get a terrible analog signal.

It is incredible what we are missing. KCET-HD has pictures that are outstanding. The local cable KCET not only blows away Dish's poor analog pictures, it blows away the HD signals on Dish.

As for politics, I cannot help but think that politics are what are behind Ergen's refusal to pay for PBS like cable and DirectTV do.

I am very, very disappointed with Dish. For the amount of money he pays for channels I don't watch, the pittance asked for by PBS affiliates should be no obstacle. I mean, the NFL network as basic? Come on.
:welcome_s

What some of us want is our PBS locals in HD. And there are some who want The CW channels in HD. A few others would like the MyNetworkTV channels in HD. Unfortunately, we all probably don't even equal the total number of people who'd go berserk without the NFL Network.
AntAltMike said:
Ooooh! Ooooh! A new member! Isn't there a hazing ritual here or something!
We don't haze here. Dish does that for us by promising that what we want will be available...SOON.:D
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