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DIRECTV subscribers who live in some markets qualify for an automatic upgrade to HD-capable equipment. This is because all their local channels, even the standard-definition ones, use the MPEG-4 technology used everywhere for high definition service. If you live in one of these markets... you'll definitely be using HD-capable equipment.

  • Albany, GA
  • Alexandria, LA
  • Amarillo, TX
  • Anchorage, AK
  • Bangor, ME
  • Billings, MT
  • Biloxi - Gulfport, MS
  • Binghamton, NY
  • Bluefield - Beckley - Oak Hill, WV
  • Boise, ID
  • Butte - Bozeman, MT
  • Cedar Rapids - Waterloo - Iowa City - Dubuque, IA
  • Champaign - Springfield - Decatur, IL
  • Clarksburg - Weston, WV
  • Columbia - Jefferson City, MO
  • Columbus, GA - Opelika - Auburn, AL
  • Davenport IA - Rock Island - Moline, IL
  • Erie, PA
  • Eureka, CA
  • Evansville, IN
  • Fairbanks, AK
  • Ft. Smith - Fayetteville - Springdale - Rogers, AR
  • Ft. Wayne, IN
  • Gainesville, FL
  • Great Falls, MT
  • Greenville - New Bern - Washington, NC
  • Greenwood - Greenville, MS
  • Harrisonburg, VA
  • Honolulu, HI
  • Idaho Falls - Pocatello - Jackson, ID
  • Jonesboro, AR
  • Juneau, AK
  • Lincoln - Hastings - Kearney, NE
  • Lubbock, TX
  • Marquette, MI
  • Meridian, MS
  • Missoula, MT
  • Montgomery - Selma, AL
  • Odessa - Midland, TX
  • Panama City, FL
  • Peoria - Bloomington, IL
  • Quincy, IL - Hannibal, MO - Keokuk, IA
  • Sioux City, IA
  • Sioux Falls - Mitchell, SD
  • Springfield, MO
  • Syracuse, NY
  • Terre Haute, IN
  • Tri - Cities, (Bristol - Kingsport - Johnson City) TN - VA
  • Watertown, NY
  • Wausau - Rhinelander, WI
  • Wheeling, WV - Steubenville, OH
  • Youngstown, OH
 

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Stuart Sweet said:
DIRECTV subscribers who live in some markets qualify for an automatic upgrade to HD-capable equipment. This is because all their local channels, even the standard-definition ones, use the MPEG-4 technology used everywhere for high definition service. If you live in one of these markets... you'll definitely be using HD-capable equipment.
  • Augusta, GA
  • Boise, ID
  • Burlington, VT - Plattsburgh, NY
  • Cedar Rapids-Waterloo, IA
  • Champaign-Springfield-Decatur, IL
  • Charleston, SC
  • Chattanooga, TN
  • Columbia-Jefferson City, MO
  • Davenport, IA - Rock Island-Moline, IL
  • Evansville, IN
  • Fort Smith, AR
  • Fort Wayne, IN
  • Greenville-New Bern-Washington, NC
  • Johnson City, TN - Bristol, VA/TN - Kingsport, TN (Tri-Cities)
  • Johnstown-Altoona, PA
  • La Crosse-Eau Claire, WI
  • Lincoln-Hastings, NE
  • Macon, GA
  • Myrtle Beach-Florence, SC
  • Peoria-Bloomington, IL
  • Rockford, IL
  • Sioux Falls, SD
  • Springfield, MO
  • Syracuse, NY
  • Toledo, OH
  • Traverse City-Cadillac, MI
  • Waco-Temple-Bryan, TX
  • Wausau-Rhinelander, WI
  • Youngstown, OH
Joplin/Pittsburg should be added to that list as well.
 

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The information in post #1 has been updated with the latest data. Thanks, gct, for corrections and additions!
 

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joshjr said:
Joplin/Pittsburg should be added to that list as well.
This one has not been added yet!
 

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joshjr said:
This one has not been added yet!
Josh,

I just double checked the data. It seems your CW station, channel 15, is still delivered to you in MPEG2 compression from the D8 Sat @101W.

Stuart's distinction in the original post was to list all those DMAs that are ALL MPEG4. That 100% requirement is the kicker. We have many DMAs that, like Joplin, have many/most/almost-all/MPEG4 LILs.

Check out the LIL TPN Map tab within the TPN_MAP Excel. All the information is available there.

Thanks!
 

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gct said:
Josh,

I just double checked the data. It seems your CW station, channel 15, is still delivered to you in MPEG2 compression from the D8 Sat @101W.

Stuart's distinction in the original post was to list all those DMAs that are ALL MPEG4. That 100% requirement is the kicker. We have many DMAs that, like Joplin, have many/most/almost-all/MPEG4 LILs.
Yeah... I deleted Jackson, TN from my list earlier today, because I wasn't sure about their situation.

I haven't had time to check it out though...

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gct said:
Josh,

I just double checked the data. It seems your CW station, channel 15, is still delivered to you in MPEG2 compression from the D8 Sat @101W.

Stuart's distinction in the original post was to list all those DMAs that are ALL MPEG4. That 100% requirement is the kicker. We have many DMAs that, like Joplin, have many/most/almost-all/MPEG4 LILs.

Check out the LIL TPN Map tab within the TPN_MAP Excel. All the information is available there.

Thanks!
I guess I took this as a list of DMA's that are defined as an MPEG 4 only market by DirecTV. My market is a MPEG 4 only market. The CW we get is actually the DNS feed imported to us. All locals in my market are offered only in HD. CW is not in my market but is offered to my market. Anyone care to clarify?
 

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joshjr said:
I guess I took this as a list of DMA's that are defined as an MPEG 4 only market by DirecTV. My market is a MPEG 4 only market. The CW we get is actually the DNS feed imported to us. All locals in my market are offered only in HD. CW is not in my market but is offered to my market. Anyone care to clarify?
For CW,
the DNS East Feed CWe, is channel 394
the DNS West Feed CWw, is channel 395

You have a remote feed from WDCW, but you do not have DNS service.
 

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gct said:
For CW,
the DNS East Feed CWe, is channel 394
the DNS West Feed CWw, is channel 395

You have a remote feed from WDCW, but you do not have DNS service.
I actually I do. I have DNS and locals both. The point I was making is that Joplin/Pittsburg is a MPEG 4 only market based on what DirecTV says. Is the list not for MPEG 4 only markets?
 

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Is this going to be updated to include Joplin/Pittsburg?
 

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inkahauts said:
I thought Palm Springs was all mpeg4 too...
Thats what I once thought, but it appears PS has one SD MPEG-2 feed PBSNET from the DNS service mapped to channel 65 as a virtual local.

So like Joplin/Pittsburg with its single inclusion of SD MPEG-2 CWe from DNS serving as virtual local channel 15, I guess that disqualifies it as 100% MPEG-4 market as well, for the above list criteria anyhow.
 

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Thats what I once thought, but it appears PS has one SD MPEG-2 feed PBSNET from the DNS service mapped to channel 65 as a virtual local.

So like Joplin/Pittsburg with its single inclusion of SD MPEG-2 CWe from DNS serving as virtual local channel 15, I guess that disqualifies it as 100% MPEG-4 market as well, for the above list criteria anyhow.
They still qualify for an equipment upgrade, don't they? :confused:

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Alan Gordon said:
They still qualify for an equipment upgrade, don't they? :confused:

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Yeah they should;

Since as joshjr indicates, there seems to be a difference between what DIRECTV classifies as an MPEG-4 only market and what the list authors do at the beginning of the thread.
 

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HoTat2 said:
Yeah they should;

Since as joshjr indicates, there seems to be a difference between what DIRECTV classifies as an MPEG-4 only market and what the list authors do at the beginning of the thread.
Its kind of a no brainer to me. My counties big 4 locals are only offered in HD and there is no CW affiliate here either. Do you know anyone who would want SD CW only for locals? I dont. When people say locals they for sure want the big four. DirecTV told me I was in a MPEG4 only market and did swap my equipment for free. I have a R22 still and cant help but wonder when it fails (owned) what it will be replaced with. My guess is it will be a HR something. I dont understand how importing the CW from somewhere else and all my markets locals are HD only does not qualify my market as MPEG4 only. To each their own. DirecTV says its MPEG4 only. Thats all that really matters.
 

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Greenville Washington New Bern NC market

we are a MPEG4 market we get,

WITN NBC HD
WNCT CBS HD
WCTI ABC HD
WYDO FOX HD
UNC TV HD
WNCT DT2 CW SD
UNC EX SD

also get
UNC SD that is off 101 satellite

We also still get CWe 394
 

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jamieh1 said:
Greenville Washington New Bern NC market

we are a MPEG4 market we get,

WITN NBC HD
WNCT CBS HD
WCTI ABC HD
WYDO FOX HD
UNC TV HD
WNCT DT2 CW SD
UNC EX SD

also get
UNC SD that is off 101 satellite

We also still get CWe 394
Please see Stuart's post #1 - You are indeed total MPEG4 Market! Congratulations!
 

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jamieh1 said:
Greenville Washington New Bern NC market

we are a MPEG4 market we get, ...

... also get
UNC SD that is off 101 satellite

We also still get CWe 394
Strange, if you're indeed an MPEG-4 only market, why are you receiving a UNC SD feed from 101? Particularly when you previously list a UNC HD feed from (according to the mapping data) WUNC-DT 15?

And why SD CWe ch. 394, when you already receive a satellite delivered SD CW feed from WNCT-DT2 ch. 15?
 

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HoTat2 said:
Strange, if you're indeed an MPEG-4 only market, why are you receiving a UNC SD feed from 101? Particularly when you previously list a UNC HD feed from (according to the mapping data) WUNC-DT 15?

And why SD CWe ch. 394, when you already receive a satellite delivered SD CW feed from WNCT-DT2 ch. 15?
Thanks, HoTat2, for taking the ego and emotional involvement out of this thread, in favor of technical accuracy. Just go to the 'LIL TPN MAP' tab in the Excel to see what DIRECTV defines as your network (Net 591 in this case) and what programming is provided. If the 'Name' and 'Channel' is shaded in blue, it is an MPEG4 channel.
 
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