[mitchelljd]

With Liberty buying Directv, or at least Fox's stake, Wouldn't now be the good time to vocally start a movement to bring back Tivo, regular and HD?

If you believe so. post here and let us know your thoughts. I think that if we get vocal, we would stand a good shot at bringing back new Tivo models that actually work.

 

[Tom_S]

Oh, for the love... NO!

 

[mitchelljd]

why not, my HD Tivo has been great. only had problems once i have added a hr20.

The Directv designed model is a debacle. If you like it great. keep it. I just think we should have the option to decide. and NOT have Directv disable alot of the great Tivo functions and networking functions like they did with the tivo models they did release.

 

[EMoMoney]

TiVo doesn't have a hardware unit that can decode MPEG4. We would be waiting for a loooong time for it to even hit the market.

 

[Dbadone]

If you think D* will go back to tivo to apease a few of it's subscribers and ditch their own efforts to control their own receivers and how they work I think your sadly mistaken. I think if we all are patient and allow them to fix the quirks that are aparent in the HR20 that has only been out 3 months we all will be happy in the near future. Of course there are problems with change especially when a company attemtps to launch something that's new. They have good intentions with launching their own DVR receivers and will work out the bugs when TIVO was first introduced they had bugs too but they all worked out in the end. That's why you like your tivo they have been in the recording business longer than D*. Give D* time and don't expect a fix overnight and I think you will be happy once more.

 

[john18]

I agree, it's way too late for that. Even if there were any compelling reasons to consider such a thing the MPEG-4 issue completely trumps it. D* needs MPEG-4 as fast as possible to go with the upcoming satellite launches to get national HD widely available.

 

[ebockelman]

TiVo doesn't have a hardware unit that can decode MPEG4. We would be waiting for a loooong time for it to even hit the market.

The Tivo Series 3 can decode MPEG4.

The trick would be integrating the new sat tuners and coming up with a new (stable) dssapp to control them.

 

[Earl Bonovich]

The Tivo Series 3 can decode MPEG4.

The trick would be integrating the new sat tuners and coming up with a new (stable) dssapp to control them.

There are multiple different codec in the MPEG-4 universe..
No guarantee that the architecture design, chipset, ect... in the T3 will just "work" with DirecTV flavor

 

[carl6]

It would definately take a dedicated design and manufacturing effort to get a new, MPEG4 capable DirecTivo DVR. If that were to be done, it would be at the very least, a year or longer before anyone would see one. That just isn't going to happen.

I can think of no reasonable business argument that would make Liberty consider such a course of action. As others have noted, the decision point is history and there is virtually no possibility of that decision being reversed.

Carl

 

[TigersFanJJ]

Oh, for the love... NO!

My thoughts exactly.

It would definately take a dedicated design and manufacturing effort to get a new, MPEG4 capable DirecTivo DVR. If that were to be done, it would be at the very least, a year or longer before anyone would see one. That just isn't going to happen.

I can think of no reasonable business argument that would make Liberty consider such a course of action. As others have noted, the decision point is history and there is virtually no possibility of that decision being reversed.

Carl

Not to mention that we would all be "starting over" again. No telling how long, once we got it, for all the bugs to be worked out.

 

[Tom_S]

I have had Tivo for 4 years. I got it because I wanted dual tuner functinality. The interface IMO has always been slow and clunky. I have had problems(Guide not downloading, lock-ups) a few times a year (Which according to some here is DOWNRIGHT UNSTABLE).

HR20 has problems. So far, for me, not to bad. More than I had with the old Tivo but not enough to drive me crazy. In fact the slowness of the Tivo was WAAAAAY more infuriating then an problems I have had with the HR20. Especially the way reordering the season passes would hold you hostage for minutes at a time.

Say NO to Tivo!

 

[lewah33]

With Liberty buying Directv, or at least Fox's stake, Wouldn't now be the good time to vocally start a movement to bring back Tivo, regular and HD?

If you believe so. post here and let us know your thoughts. I think that if we get vocal, we would stand a good shot at bringing back new Tivo models that actually work.

Yes - absolutely yes!

 

[Herdfan]

it would be at the very least, a year or longer before anyone would see one. That just isn't going to happen.

I can think of no reasonable business argument that would make Liberty consider such a course of action.

While I don't see it happening, please consider this:

1) No one outside of Alviso and maybe El Segundo knows whether or not TiVo Inc. was working on an MPEG-4 capable receiver. They may very well have developed one in case it was needed. Especially after the train wreck that was the R15.

2) Malone is a money guy. He will have a room full of number crunchers giving him the bottom line on many different aspects of D*. One will bound to be STB's. If it turns out to be cheaper to go back to TiVo, or a possible other supplier, then they very well might do it. Remember, the whole TiVo thing fell apart in part due to RM's insistence on total STB control and he had NDS as well. Malone might not be as rigid on the Whole STB control.

So again, while I don't see it happening, I can't discount the possibility of it either.

 

[Araxen]

I hope Tivo comes back. I'm holding off on upgrading to HD because of it. If I do upgrade to HD it'll be with the cable co or Dish(free dvr can't beat that). ><

 

[Earl Bonovich]

I hope Tivo comes back. I'm holding off on upgrading to HD because of it. If I do upgrade to HD it'll be with the cable co. ><

Then start looking at Comcast or RSN (depending where you are in Chicago).
As TiVo is not comming back... If it does... it wouldn't be for a while.

 

[aramus8]

Read what D* execs said at their press conference!!! The HR20 is their future. They need the unit for Video on Demand starting in BETA testing this spring. By the time D* gets finished with their upgrades to services, you'll be able to find all the the Tivos you want at your nearest landfill.

 

[Rpbertxyz]

Read what D* execs said at their press conference!!! The HR20 is their future. They need the unit for Video on Demand starting in BETA testing this spring. By the time D* gets finished with their upgrades to services, you'll be able to find all the the Tivos you want at your nearest landfill.

That is why I sold my HR10-250 now (couldn't get rid of it fast enough), it will be obsolete sooner or later.

 

[wilbur_the_goose]

give me dual buffers, and I'll switch right now

(Yep, I know they're mulling this feature)

 

[Herdfan]

Read what D* execs said at their press conference!!!

But remember, today's D* execs are not necessarily tomorrow's D* execs. Malone may want his own guys in there. And besides, D* execs also say there is nothing wrong with their HD Lite.:eek2:

 

[Lord Vader]

TiVo doesn't have a hardware unit that can decode MPEG4. We would be waiting for a loooong time for it to even hit the market.

Perhaps this is partly because DirecTV abandoned TIVO for their own hardware, thereby giving TIVO no incentive to build an MPEG-4 device. Had DTV kept some relationship alive, maybe by now we WOULD have an MPEG-4 DTIVO.