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This puts a definite glitch in my "cutting the cord" strategy of using DirecTV Stream as my primary source of content, supplemented by Locast for the locals I don't get, CW and PBS. I need to figure something out before I wind up going back to DirecTV Sat and get locked in for 2 more years. I'm playing with the idea of putting an antenna in my attic and using the existing cabling to hook it to the TV. Maybe that's a weekend project. We'll see. Won't do anything drastic until the whole thing is settled one way or the other.
Have you tried the Local BTV app?

I assume you are in NJ by your userhandle, and BTV services both New York and Philly and has PBS stations. (It is a recent addition as a of year or so ago, as initially it lacked PBS stations). The parent company negotiated with the stations for transmission, unlike Locast. It's spotty with CW and MyNetwork, and doesn't have the Weigel owned networks (MeTV, Decades, etc.) but it has agreements for Cozi, getTV and Antenna TV broadcasts from the local markets. And a few digitnets like NewsNet, a low budget news network, and California Music Channel, even though neither are transmitted over the air in Philly.

When I checked it more lately, it also now permits recording on Cozi (from my NBC affiliate WCAU). Originally, Cozi was the only network where there was a message that recording via its cloud DVR wasn't permitting.

Eventually, BTV plans on charging, but right now, it's all free, and has a cloud DVR as well.

LocalBTV - Free Local TV
 

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That's interesting, never heard of it, but, still missing all our network locals including the one main one missing from DirecTV Stream, WPIX (our local CW).
Have you tried rabbit ears?

I see that Hulu with Live and YTTV also has WPIX, along with Directv Stream. Local BTV just complements as a free service, with PBS. With exception of YouTubeTV, none of the streaming services have PBS. In Philly, WPHL is missing from Hulu/YTTV. I never understood why Nexstar didn't push for WPHL carriage, when it pushed for NewsNation. WPHL even airs Action News at 10, operated by WPVI, owned by ABC, owned by Disney, yet Hulu with Live, owned by Disney, doesn't have WPHL. Anyways I digress.

But I found if I want to save money over Comcast/FIOS, I have to use multiple app to get the same or more channels.
 

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After Locast shut down, there are tons of ads on places you can get locals. In about all cases, the viewer that was paying $5 a month, suddenly to get their locals from a provider has to buy some package of programming for $50 or more a month, just to get locals? With few or no diginets included. Locast had a nitch that worked, giving the viewer most of the channels in their DMA, including the popular diginets. None of these other services do that! You pay almost what cable/satellite costs just to get locals? There needs some service that just will offer what Locast did, even if they have to pay re-transmission fees. I think many would be satisfied to pay $20 a month to get all locals and popular diginets in their market. It is not $5, but more affordable than these other services. Maybe Locast could come back, looking at a legal venture to offer what they do now for a decent price. Many of us do not get all diginets. I have always hoped some service will open up to offer all of the diginets in a package. One reason I stay with Dish (One of many), is they offer a lot of diginets that I can easily DVR. I have been trying to get Dish to have Decades. One that is nearly impossible to get, as no one offers it. I live in Oregon, and Portland dropped it a couple years ago and since Corporate calls the shots, the locals could not offer it even it they wanted to. There is a real gap in what we can receive, even streaming. All people do not want a bunch of the popular cable channels either. I know people that are very happy with OTA translators which we have 27 of them.
I believe Local BTV had been trying to do that, although right now, it's free, so it is likely only carrying channels without retransmission fees.
LocalBTV - Free Local TV

When it first launched, it didn't advertise free as much, as it was more trial focused with an intent to start charging once it had enough popular channels in a market.

It appears to have an agreement with some PBS stations, NBC for just Cozi, Azteca, getTV, some Nexstar independent stations and Antenna TV and some stations that would be must-carry on a cable system. Originally, their intent was to be a subscription service and get ABC, NBC, CBS and Fox not just set up a platform for minor stations and not be able to charge anything for them.

Frankly, I'd be surprised if they signed deals with the major 4 networks, since those major networks tend to want their co-owned cable networks to be carried as well.

I'd rather Local BTV inked a deal with FrndlyTV, or signed agreements with smaller cable networks directly like Hallmark. So, those lower cost cable networks would be together with a smattering of local channels like PBS stations and Antenna TV affiliates.
 
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