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ALERT: I'm a newbie when it comes to ripping DVDs.

I'm building a media server that will store ripped DVDs but I'm having some problems with ripped DVDs. I just don't know if the problem is in the ripping process, my TVersity settings, or the HR20. (The HR20 won't be my final "extender" but I thought it would be fun to try it out until I get extenders.)

I started ripping with DVDFab Decrypter and then encoding with DVD Shrink. (Is that even the best way to do it?) DVD Shrink combines the multiple VOB files into a single file, I put that file into the Video folder on my server, and the HR20 recognizes it just fine. MediaShare plays the file (which looks pretty darn good) but there's no audio.

When I play the ripped file on the server in DVD Shrink, there's audio and video on the preview screen so I figure the audio is part of the final file. I renamed the movie file to an MPG format to see if that would help but it made no difference via MediaShare. Odd thing was, when I played that MPG file via WMC, there was audio but no video but I figured that was a codec issue.)

I use Tversity (set to transcode Always) and have the codec pack installed, but do I need something else in place in order for my HR20-700 to stream the file properly? Do I need to use something different to rip DVDs? Am I missing the step that gets the audio into the final file?
 

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The file may be in program stream format. It needs to be a transport stream (TS) or there may be audio issues. I am not familiar with DVD Shrink, but if that is an option you should try it.
 

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bobnielsen said:
The file may be in program stream format. It needs to be a transport stream (TS) or there may be audio issues. I am not familiar with DVD Shrink, but if that is an option you should try it.
DVD Shrink creates a proper DVD structure with VOB files.
That would make it a program stream.
I don't do this so that's all I can offer.

Just using DVD decrypter gives you the same file structure as shrink does. The total size of files are a bit larger tho.........Using both wouldn't lose any quality unless you had to shrink it down quite a bit down to 4.5gb.

The DVD will probably have ac3 audio encoded also. Maybe thats an issue.
 

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mocarob said:
DVD Shrink creates a proper DVD structure with VOB files.
That would make it a program stream.
I don't do this so that's all I can offer.

Just using DVD decrypter gives you the same file structure as shrink does. The total size of files are a bit larger tho.........Using both wouldn't lose any quality unless you had to shrink it down quite a bit down to 4.5gb.

The DVD will probably have ac3 audio encoded also. Maybe thats an issue.
You can only use ac3 audio from within a transport stream for MediaShare. A program stream will also work, but you are limited to mp2 audio.
 

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durl said:
ALERT: I'm a newbie when it comes to ripping DVDs.

I'm building a media server that will store ripped DVDs but I'm having some problems with ripped DVDs. I just don't know if the problem is in the ripping process, my TVersity settings, or the HR20. (The HR20 won't be my final "extender" but I thought it would be fun to try it out until I get extenders.)

I started ripping with DVDFab Decrypter and then encoding with DVD Shrink. (Is that even the best way to do it?) DVD Shrink combines the multiple VOB files into a single file, I put that file into the Video folder on my server, and the HR20 recognizes it just fine. MediaShare plays the file (which looks pretty darn good) but there's no audio.

When I play the ripped file on the server in DVD Shrink, there's audio and video on the preview screen so I figure the audio is part of the final file. I renamed the movie file to an MPG format to see if that would help but it made no difference via MediaShare. Odd thing was, when I played that MPG file via WMC, there was audio but no video but I figured that was a codec issue.)

I use Tversity (set to transcode Always) and have the codec pack installed, but do I need something else in place in order for my HR20-700 to stream the file properly? Do I need to use something different to rip DVDs? Am I missing the step that gets the audio into the final file?
As these guys have all mentioned you have two options -

Leave the file in the format you have it in now (single VOB) - and transcode thru TVersity. Sounds like you will additionally need to install an AC3 filter to convert the 5.1 AC3 to 2.0 MP2.

Or option two - run the file thru a converter program to repackage it from VOB to a transport stream and save that to a file. And mark that file as never transcode thru TVersity.
 

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bhelton71 said:
As these guys have all mentioned you have two options -

Leave the file in the format you have it in now (single VOB) - and transcode thru TVersity. Sounds like you will additionally need to install an AC3 filter to convert the 5.1 AC3 to 2.0 MP2.

Or option two - run the file thru a converter program to repackage it from VOB to a transport stream and save that to a file. And mark that file as never transcode thru TVersity.
I'm transcoding thru TVersity right now. I originally had TVersity set to transcode as needed but I still didn't get audio when I set it to transcode always. I'll look for that AC3 filter you mentioned.

So is the lack of audio due to the HR20's inability to detect the 5.1 format?
 

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Well, I installed AC3 Filter and that didn't solve the problem. I had it set to do 2.0 sound but there's still no audio. But the movie file still plays perfectly on the PC.

Does anyone have any more suggestions on how to get the audio through the HR20?
 
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