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My New System - Old_School

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So i thought i would share with everyone my new system that was installed on December 12, 2011. Attached (I hope) is a diagram i drew up.. Take a look, did the installer connect everything right??

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Looks good to me. Does it work? If so, its connected right :)
Yes it works but, my only *itch is that the installer did a sloppy install.... he was very zip tie happy. The wire from my dish to the SWS-8 was zip tied down my porch railing to where the SWS-8 was zip tied to the railling...lol :lol: all the other wires where zip tied back down the railling to the Comcast box where he tied into the coax running to the rooms already.

I did order some supplies to clean it up a bit as in VERY picking on how stuff looks....
If possible, find a way to use a 4 way and a 2 way splitter to cut down on loss over an 8 way.

Kevin
Kevin F said:
If possible, find a way to use a 4 way and a 2 way splitter to cut down on loss over an 8 way.

Kevin
I thought about that but, i wanted to leave a little room for future add ons... is there that much loss anyways??
Kevin F said:
If possible, find a way to use a 4 way and a 2 way splitter to cut down on loss over an 8 way.

Kevin
I see you know how much I hate seeing 8-ways. !rolling
With the need for 5 feeds, going with a 4-way feeding a 2-way, would really only help [much] if one of the drops was close to 50' shorter than the others.
If this was the case, then using a 2-way on the short and a 4-way as the main, would help to balance/improve the signal levels to everything.

If all the runs are about the same distance, the 8-way might as well stay.
Old_School said:
I thought about that but, i wanted to leave a little room for future add ons... is there that much loss anyways??
Each time you split the signal, it's the same as adding 50' of coax.
So a 4-way = 100' & an 8-way = 150'

The max between the SWiM and farthest receiver has to be less than 30 dB of loss, so the 8-way has 15 dB, leaving another 15 dB [150'] for coax loss.

With your current tuner count, you can only add 2 more tuners [one DVR].
veryoldschool said:
I see you know how much I hate seeing 8-ways. !rolling
With the need for 5 feeds, going with a 4-way feeding a 2-way, would really only help [much] if one of the drops was close to 50' shorter than the others.
If this was the case, then using a 2-way on the short and a 4-way as the main, would help to balance/improve the signal levels to everything.

If all the runs are about the same distance, the 8-way might as well stay.
There is only one "long" feed and that is to the garage (about 40 FT) As far a signals, Most of them are 96 or higher.
Old_School said:
There is only one "long" feed and that is to the garage (about 40 FT) As far a signals, Most of them are 96 or higher.
While those numbers are good, they don't reflect the actual loss, but instead are the quality of the [possibly weak] signal.

If all your drops are within the 50-100', "you're fine".
So does that wireless CCK basically support pass through? Meaning you can feed the CCK and a receiver on a single line? VOS I think you tried to point that out in the thread that I started and I must have missed it.
veryoldschool said:
While those numbers are good, they don't reflect the actual loss, but instead are the quality of the [possibly weak] signal.

If all your drops are within the 50-100', "you're fine".
Thanks for the info, i always love learning new things... Back in the 2000ish time frame i went to school to learn to be an electrical tech.. loved it! when i graduated i got a job with a guy installing D as a sub-contractor. I remember a few things about it but, it has changed quite a bit since i stopped in 2006. I don't ever remember SWM or MRV at all. If i remember correctly D10-200 where what was mostly installed....
My only question is, what is the Cinema Connection kit, what purpose does it serve in your set up?
(post deleted. iPhone error, forgot to refresh thread)

Kevin
ChicagoTC said:
So does that wireless CCK basically support pass through? Meaning you can feed the CCK and a receiver on a single line? VOS I think you tried to point that out in the thread that I started and I must have missed it.
Yes it does, and yes I was trying to get you to set one up that way, so you didn't have the extra loss of a 2-way splitter.
Old_School said:
Thanks for the info, i always love learning new things... Back in the 2000ish time frame i went to school to learn to be an electrical tech.. loved it! when i graduated i got a job with a guy installing D as a sub-contractor. I remember a few things about it but, it has changed quite a bit since i stopped in 2006. I don't ever remember SWM or MRV at all. If i remember correctly D10-200 where what was mostly installed....
SWiM didn't even come out in testing until '07. MRV and DECA was another 2-3 years later.
MrDad0330 said:
My only question is, what is the Cinema Connection kit, what purpose does it serve in your set up?
The CCK bridges the coax networking to the home network for internet access and other networking apps.
I can see one thing. It looks like you have the clearwire modem/router running into a Linksys wifi router? Two routers in series is not an ideal setup. You really should be using a plain wireless access point, not a router.

I'm kind of going by your picture here. If what you have is in fact a Linksys access point (which looks just like a router), never mind.

If it is a router, it might be possible to go in and change it to "access point mode", which shuts off the unneeded routing function.

Oh, and here's one more tip. Whatever you do use for wireless, should be physically as far from the Clear box as you can make it. Definitely at least 6 feet away.

Keith
PokerJoker said:
I can see one thing. It looks like you have the clearwire modem/router running into a Linksys wifi router? Two routers in series is not an ideal setup. You really should be using a plain wireless access point, not a router.

I'm kind of going by your picture here. If what you have is in fact a Linksys access point (which looks just like a router), never mind.

If it is a router, it might be possible to go in and change it to "access point mode", which shuts off the unneeded routing function.

Oh, and here's one more tip. Whatever you do use for wireless, should be physically as far from the Clear box as you can make it. Definitely at least 6 feet away.

Keith
I'm pretty sure the integrated router in the Clearwire modem/router is turned off (as well as its WiFi). That is to say the Clearwire unit is set to "bridging mode" where it just acts as a modem and the routing functions and DHCP assignments are passed on to the Linksys router.
I would have gotten an HR34 and SWM16 with that set up, I can see many recording conflicts.
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