As by all estimates, the CW's days are probably numbered (see Variety and many other publications) probably never. They are struggling and unless they get a massive turnaround this season, there wont be a Fall 2009 for them.millertime said:
national CW feed in HD
Any idea when?
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What about MyNetwork? He asks rhetorically. 
Ughhh, what am I going to do about Smallville and Supernatural? Yes, the only two shows I watch on that station, and Smallville is kinda Campy, but I really do enjoy them. I know, I know, but hopefully some other station will pick them up.LarryFlowers said:As by all estimates, the CW's days are probably numbered (see Variety and many other publications) probably never. They are struggling and unless they get a massive turnaround this season, there wont be a Fall 2009 for them.
This is probably the last season for Smallville.studdad said:Ughhh, what am I going to do about Smallville and Supernatural? Yes, the only two shows I watch on that station, and Smallville is kinda Campy, but I really do enjoy them. I know, I know, but hopefully some other station will pick them up.
DARN!kandor said:This is probably the last season for Smallville.
Don't give up (just yetstuddad said:Ughhh, what am I going to do about Smallville and Supernatural? Yes, the only two shows I watch on that station, and Smallville is kinda Campy, but I really do enjoy them. I know, I know, but hopefully some other station will pick them up.
) If there is an audience, someone will pick it up, for example COMCAST and DirecTv are getting into the game (will Dish be next?) by helping with production cost in exchange for first-run excusivity( ie: D*, Friday Night Lights and Comcast, Big Break)
If the CW goes under, I'd expect My Network TV to go first though, I'd imagine some of it's higher rated shows would to go to a CBS or Time Warner owned cable network.
I can't do without Reaper.
It's amazing how they took two moderately successful networks - the WB and UPN - and turned them into a disaster. And worse, their target demographic of teens and 20-somethings are rapidly moving to get all their entertainment to the web.
It's look like your local stations will go independent if one or two networks goes out of business.
That's bring me back good old days in the 1980's here in Albuquerque we used to get 3 independent stations, KSAF-TV ch. 2 , KGSW ch, 14 and KNAT-TV ch 23.....
KSAF-TV has become KASA-TV FOX, KGSW-TV has went of the air by moving to ch, 2 now it's KTFQ-TV a Spanish station TFT and KNAT-TV sadly went to TBN crap.
They used to broadcast good stuffs with tons of live sports and lots of movies and little raunchy British Benny Hill shows, chasing sexy women!
I just hope my local stations make the right decision by not going to stupid home shopping network or church channel crap. "We have too many of them here in Albuquerque's TV market.:eek2: :nono2:
Yes it's a shame, they get rid of UPN since I like Star Trek Enterprise and also few year back 7-days time travel Sci Fi shows, those TV shows were great at that time IMHO.
Please bring the back the good old days!!!
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That's bring me back good old days in the 1980's here in Albuquerque we used to get 3 independent stations, KSAF-TV ch. 2 , KGSW ch, 14 and KNAT-TV ch 23.....
KSAF-TV has become KASA-TV FOX, KGSW-TV has went of the air by moving to ch, 2 now it's KTFQ-TV a Spanish station TFT and KNAT-TV sadly went to TBN crap.
They used to broadcast good stuffs with tons of live sports and lots of movies and little raunchy British Benny Hill shows, chasing sexy women!
I just hope my local stations make the right decision by not going to stupid home shopping network or church channel crap. "We have too many of them here in Albuquerque's TV market.:eek2: :nono2:
Yes it's a shame, they get rid of UPN since I like Star Trek Enterprise and also few year back 7-days time travel Sci Fi shows, those TV shows were great at that time IMHO.
Please bring the back the good old days!!!
9-13-08
I've seen both those articles and they have more to do with Tribunes troubles then it does the CW. All we are talking about in those articles is a couple local afilates rebranding because the youth auidence of the CW doesn't mix well with their newscasts. Well here just read this part from a LA times write up "The CW's pursuit of young viewers clashes with Tribune's focus on its newscasts, which generate most of its TV stations' revenue and appeal to older viewers.". So we basically have a situation where Tribune is struggling (there also selling the cubs", and they need to find a way to make money. Most young people don't tune into the late local news, but that's where the locals make their money. So if MyNetwork is still around the CW will be for years to come.LarryFlowers said:As by all estimates, the CW's days are probably numbered (see Variety and many other publications) probably never. They are struggling and unless they get a massive turnaround this season, there wont be a Fall 2009 for them.
I think the Variety article was pretty succinct: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988805.html?categoryid=2522&cs=1&query=CWgeneralpatton78 said:I've seen both those articles and they have more to do with Tribunes troubles then it does the CW. All we are talking about in those articles is a couple local afilates rebranding because the youth auidence of the CW doesn't mix well with their newscasts. Well here just read this part from a LA times write up "The CW's pursuit of young viewers clashes with Tribune's focus on its newscasts, which generate most of its TV stations' revenue and appeal to older viewers.". So we basically have a situation where Tribune is struggling (there also selling the cubs", and they need to find a way to make money. Most young people don't tune into the late local news, but that's where the locals make their money. So if MyNetwork is still around the CW will be for years to come.
Quoting "Now, after two seasons, the net's future is very much up in the air. It has farmed out its Sunday night to Media Rights Capital, it's parting ways with top-rated wrestling franchise "Smackdown," and will be counting on an update of "Beverly Hills, 90210" to provide some much-needed buzz.
It hasn't been for lack of trying for CW, a network born out of the failure of weblets UPN and the WB. After a bumpy first transitional year, Dawn Ostroff and company developed a strong, critic-approved slate of series last season like "Reaper" and "Aliens in America," as well as "Gossip Girl."
But viewers still didn't show up (although many seem to be watching "Gossip Girl" somewhere, just not on TVs hooked up to Nielsen meters)."
And...
"But if things are still looking dim come January, the pressure may build for co-owners Time-Warner and CBS to do something drastic."
Do I smell "Celebrity Female Nude Bondage Wrestling Federation" on the horizon?
Again "by all estimates" you wrote, I mean come on Larry. You did nothing here but quote a entrainment paper that HAS TO PUBLISH something edgy. Then they don't even say anything about the CW closing down if this years shows don't go well. All they say in the article your quoting is something drastic would need to be done. Well that could mean anything from firing somebody to changing their target demo. I've read enough of these articles thanks to HOTP to know you have to realize they sensationalise almost everything they write just like ET and E! does on TV. Also how can you even trust Micheal Schneider after he wrote "born out of the failure of weblets UPN and the WB". The last time I checked the WB had developed several hit shows on the network and a solid audience out of nothing. Just ask Katie Holmes and Sarah Michelle Gellar how the WB did. So ya I think the CW will be here next year and the year after that and the year after that in at least some significant form. I certainly wouldn't rule out some type of re split back to WB and UPN but SOMEBODY will be making programing for all these affiliates. I'd say "by all estimates" it will most likely be the CW. So ya D* should add a HD DNS!!LarryFlowers said:I think the Variety article was pretty succinct: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988805.html?categoryid=2522&cs=1&query=CW
Quoting "Now, after two seasons, the net's future is very much up in the air. It has farmed out its Sunday night to Media Rights Capital, it's parting ways with top-rated wrestling franchise "Smackdown," and will be counting on an update of "Beverly Hills, 90210" to provide some much-needed buzz.
It hasn't been for lack of trying for CW, a network born out of the failure of weblets UPN and the WB. After a bumpy first transitional year, Dawn Ostroff and company developed a strong, critic-approved slate of series last season like "Reaper" and "Aliens in America," as well as "Gossip Girl."
But viewers still didn't show up (although many seem to be watching "Gossip Girl" somewhere, just not on TVs hooked up to Nielsen meters)."
And...
"But if things are still looking dim come January, the pressure may build for co-owners Time-Warner and CBS to do something drastic."
LMAO, I'm there!!!mystic7 said:Do I smell "Celebrity Female Nude Bondage Wrestling Federation" on the horizon?
Yes.. and a lot of good those shows did the WB and the UPN, poor examples for your argument as in fact they did not survive.generalpatton78 said:Again "by all estimates" you wrote, I mean come on Larry. You did nothing here but quote a entrainment paper that HAS TO PUBLISH something edgy. Then they don't even say anything about the CW closing down if this years shows don't go well. All they say in the article your quoting is something drastic would need to be done. Well that could mean anything from firing somebody to changing their target demo. I've read enough of these articles thanks to HOTP to know you have to realize they sensationalise almost everything they write just like ET and E! does on TV. Also how can you even trust Micheal Schneider after he wrote "born out of the failure of weblets UPN and the WB". The last time I checked the WB had developed several hit shows on the network and a solid audience out of nothing. Just ask Katie Holmes and Sarah Michelle Gellar how the WB did. So ya I think the CW will be here next year and the year after that and the year after that in at least some significant form. I certainly wouldn't rule out some type of re split back to WB and UPN but SOMEBODY will be making programing for all these affiliates. I'd say "by all estimates" it will most likely be the CW. So ya D* should add a HD DNS!!
All I am saying is that the CW has a lot more to worry about than a National feed and virtually all the major markets are already covered it kind of negates the impetus to do anything about it. Stinks for those that don't get the CW, I know.
Probably never. You'll need your local station.millertime said:Any idea when?
I just can't see how CW would go under. It can't cost a lot to run, and would the affiliates really be better off back as independent stations again? Not in my area, that's for sure.
I would imagine that most of the affiliates would get dropped from cable/satellite the moment that they went independent.flipptyfloppity said:I just can't see how CW would go under. It can't cost a lot to run, and would the affiliates really be better off back as independent stations again? Not in my area, that's for sure.
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