The changeover from rural Britain to the Industrial Revolution was pretty coolgusmahler said:So what does everything think of the Opening Ceremonies so far?
Nothing. Oh, silly me. What was I thinking? Americans can't view the opening ceremonies for hours, even though they are happening right now!
A lot more people work during the daytime than at night. You can't really play to all of them for an event like the Olympics. Again, it's not about AN event. It's easy to think that way once, but you have to think about 16 days of competition. You're already splitting your audience into lots of lots across multiple networks, so to split it up further is not going to help, in primetime which is your 1 main gathering point where the sponsors are paying for their biggest audience. And you're not getting that on a weekday afternoon. I know those are completely theoretical numbers but there is ZERO chance you're drawing more people in the afternoon than you would in the evening. Even in Canada that's not the case.maartena said:Well... there is another way of looking at that. Chances are high that some people can't see it at night because they work in a restaurant or store or some other evening job, and they watch it in the afternoon. Similarly plenty of people work in the day time and can't see it in the afternoon.
If you have ONE showing, you can get say.... 10 million viewers. If you have TWO showings, maybe you will get 7 Million viewers in the afternoon, and 5 million viewers at night, effectively having 12 Million viewers watch your commercials.
Here's the thing though.. people are stupid. I forget what the numbers are, but there are a lot of folks out there who had HD equipment but don't realize they're not actually watching in HD. Just like folks with DVRs don't always skip through the commercials. Primetime may be taped, but NBC has long treated it (and many viewers view it) as if it's live, even though we all know it's not. And where you make the delay argument.. I have a few friends who will tune into a football game half an hour after the start and skip through the commercials, so by the end they're caught up.Also, LIVE viewing promotes commercial viewing. So the 7 million watching it in the afternoon will see the commercials for sure, or at least the majority.
See, if the event is going to be tape-delayed anyways, and another 3 hours on top of that, I might as well make that 4 hours, watch some other DVR'd Olympics, and not watch ANY commercials on NBC whatsoever. I think with the live showing, they would actually get more commercial viewers. Delay is delay, for those with a DVR it then doesn't matter anymore your build in your own delay to prevent commercial watching.
That's probably because you're not an idiot. You know how to seek these things out discern what's live and what isn't. But you still need an audience in front of their televisions in the first place. Americans aren't familiar enough with most of the sports and athletes they see in the Olympics that they're going to be naturally drawn to it. So if people only have 3 or 4 hours to devote to the Olympics, your best bet to get them is in primetime and they may still tune in at 8 and be there for the commercials. And if not, you always have online coverage as an alternate which wasn't there in 2008/2010.And that might also be a very compelling reason - especially in weekends - to show important stuff live.
For myself, in 2010/2008, I watched stuff live IF it was live (and thus saw commercials). If it was delayed in any way, I just added my own DVR delay and watched NO commercials whatsoever.
There are still plenty of people out there who can't get enough of Phelps, even if it's in a prelim where he's going to give less than 100% effort and still win fairly handily anyway. But again, if you give viewers reason and opportunity to skip qualifying rounds, then that extra bump of viewers you might get from having live coverage is going to get wasted away from those who won't be there for the heats.gusmahler said:I disagree. Speaking as someone who watched all of his gold medals wins in 2008, I didn't see a single qualifying heat. What's the point? Everyone knows he's going to make the final. The top competitors don't even try that hard in qualifying heats (e.g., you'll see Usain Bolt pull up 20 m from the finish because he already knows he's going to finish high enough to get to the finals.) (Here's a Usain Bolt qualifying heat from the 2011 World Championships. Not exactly exciting.)
Canada, however, is broadcasting both the swimming events and the Opening Ceremony live across the entire nation.Quaker2001 said:Even in Canada that's not the case.
Oh, please enlighten me WHERE NBC is streaming the Opening Ceremony right now.And if not, you always have online coverage as an alternate which wasn't there in 2008/2010.
I guess you want us to ignore this topic too for the time being hmm? Well so be it. See ya all later tonight when I watched the full 1080p BBC version.Hoosier205 said:British children's literature segment looks wonderful.
Yes agree, but that's about it. Everything else after that have been pretty boring and subpar so far, in my opinion.anleva said:The changeover from rural Britain to the Industrial Revolution was pretty cool
lol, I guess you need to stop watching MSNBC. Al Gore invented Global Warming too right?anleva said:Tim Berners-Lee? I thought Al Gore invented the WWW?
Berners-Lee invented the WWW. Gore invented the Internet. You need to get your facts straight.anleva said:Tim Berners-Lee? I thought Al Gore invented the WWW?
Wrapping her legs around Lennon would be even more bad taste.Maruuk said:I thought the part where the Queen wrapped her legs around McCartney was in poor taste. But I was always more of a Lennon fan.