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A friend wants to upgrade his Dad's Directv system to add a DVR for Christmas. He does not need HD.

1. From what I have read, it sounds like it is best to get a Series 2 or a D10 (I think that's the 70 hour standard def DVR, right?). R15 is still a bit flakey, right?

2. Probably have to get the Series 2 or D10 used, right?

3. I see some ebay ads say they include the access card. What should I know about buying a used Series 2 or D10.

4. I'm not sure what dish he has. Must he have the 3LNB dish? I'm sure he gets the locals (non HD) via satellite.

5. Would it make sense to get the HR20 even though he doesn't think he wants HD?

Thanks in advance.
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The standard definition DVR with TiVo is the R10. The D10 is a receiver only.

There's a pretty vocal community here who talk a lot of smack about the R15, but it is usually free if you call DirecTV. Also, there are thousands of people who use one and don't have any complaints noted here.

If you do want a TiVo unit, the R10 was the most recent. It advertised up to 70 hour capacity. You should know that while it's pretty bulletproof, nothing is perfect, and who knows how a used one has been treated.

The chances of being able to use anyone else's access card are slim, and it's against the rules. Call DirecTV and hassle them a little bit and they'll get you activated the right way, and maybe even send you a new card for free.

I have both an HR20 and an R10 and honestly like the HR20 better, but there's no point in it if you don't have high definition. It's still working out the kinks and you don't need the advanced features.

A standard definition DVR shouldn't require a change in dish, unless he's got one of the old 1-LNB systems. You need 2 LNBs to use the 2-tuner functionality in either the R10 or R15.

The R15 also has advanced features like the active and mix channels. If they sound important to you, read Earl Bonovich's review of the R15.

Bottom line is, do as you wish, but you could end up spending a lot on a used R10 and have it work no better than a new, free R15.
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Thanks Lamontcranston, your post is very helpful.
You can get a new R10 or a refurbished older model from http://www.weaknees.com. They have upgrades to larger hard drives also. The price is higher than you would pay for a used unit on ebay, but this oufit has a good reputation. I believe any of these would be owned, not leased.
lamontcranston said:
The chances of being able to use anyone else's access card are slim, and it's against the rules. Call DirecTV and hassle them a little bit and they'll get you activated the right way, and maybe even send you a new card for free.
Not quite. I've purchased 2 DTivos off eBay with the cards and they were activated by DTV without question. You have to make sure there are no charges against the card but it's not against any rule...or if it is, the CSRs I spoke with didn't know about the rule.

Also, a new card from DTV isn't free. It's $20. So that should be figured into the cost of anything purchased used if a card isn't included.
Thanks so much for all the advice. My friend is stopping by today. I will let him now what you guys think.
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