Are these discrepancies only for 101?
need some help regarding sat signals on 101
Anyone have any ideas as to what might cause the difference in signals on the two tuners for 101? Take trnspdr 3 for example: 95 on tuner 1 and 59 for tuner 2.
FYI - I just had a dish alignment and all other tuners are in the high 80s low 90s.
See attached screen shots of the 101. I can provide shots of the other tuners if needed..
Thanks in advance.
Tuner 1:
95 97 95 54 96 100 96 100
96 99 97 0 97 100 95 100
94 100 95 0 96 100 95 100
96 0 95 99 96 100 96 100
Tuner 2:
77 91 59 25 41 79 0 86
0 82 41 0 61 99 78 100
79 100 86 0 94 100 92 100
95 0 95 99 96 100 95 100
FYI - I just had a dish alignment and all other tuners are in the high 80s low 90s.
See attached screen shots of the 101. I can provide shots of the other tuners if needed..
Thanks in advance.
Tuner 1:
95 97 95 54 96 100 96 100
96 99 97 0 97 100 95 100
94 100 95 0 96 100 95 100
96 0 95 99 96 100 96 100
Tuner 2:
77 91 59 25 41 79 0 86
0 82 41 0 61 99 78 100
79 100 86 0 94 100 92 100
95 0 95 99 96 100 95 100
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I just swapped the BBCs and rebooted. Nothing changed. I at least expected the signals to "switch", but they did not. Does this mean I have a bad tuner 2 possibly?
yes.. All others are good. Here are some screen shots of my 103c tuners 1 & 2:Mertzen said:Are these discrepancies only for 101?
Do you have other IRDs you can test the 101 with at that location. Do you have noticeable issues ?
not sure what you mean by other IRDs?Mertzen said:Do you have other IRDs you can test the 101 with at that location. Do you have noticeable issues ?
As for issues - I haven't noticed anything yet because we haven't had any severe weather since my realignment last weekend. Prior to the realignment, we were getting tons of searching for SAT errors, pixelation and blank recordings.
I'm more concerned for what *might* happen with this come bad weather..
Any thoughts? Do I have a signal problem?
You've swapped BBC's, but did you swap the antenna lines as well when you did that? You need to see if the problem moves with the antenna lines.
Yes, I swapped lines. i.e., I just unscrewed the line1 and line2 and swapped them. Tuner 2 is still out of whack.K4SMX said:You've swapped BBC's, but did you swap the antenna lines as well when you did that? You need to see if the problem moves with the antenna lines.
Any clues?
There you go!DrummerBoy523 said:Yes, I swapped lines. i.e., I just unscrewed the line1 and line2 and swapped them. Tuner 2 is still out of whack.
Any clues?
IRD = integrated receiver / demodulator = tuner = receiver =box
The idea is you have moved the sat lines (antenna feeds) and produced the same effect on the meters. This means the lines are equivalent and ok. If your problem had moved to the other tuner it would have been the lines & LNB you would want to check. Since tuner (IRD) #2 is "still out of wack" (SOOF) you need to replace the recorder. I don't think DTV repairs them but for sure users don't screw with them.
You could connect one of you stand alone IRDs to each sat line going to your recorder and both should be ok. You did the same thing by just switching one good line with the sustected line.
Joe
Did you reboot after swapping the lines/BBCs?DrummerBoy523 said:Yes, I swapped lines. i.e., I just unscrewed the line1 and line2 and swapped them. Tuner 2 is still out of whack.
Any clues?
Are you in fact receiving "771 SFSS on Tuner 2" messages? I guess if you're occasionally missing 101 channels when you land on tuner 2, you could always remove the second antenna line and "Repeat Satellite Setup" in the Menu, selecting single tuner operation. That would limit your dual tuner capabilities on all the channels, however.
If you get 771's on just a few 101 channels, until you get a replacement receiver, it might be easier to just swap tuners: CH A > CH B > CH C > CH A, where CH A is the channel you're trying to swap from tuner 1 to tuner 2, and channels B and C are any two other channels. But time delayed recording of missing tuner 2 channels becomes rather problematic.....
If you just had a dish alignment for which you paid DirecTV $80 (no Protection Plan), and they insist on someone coming by to look at it, I would strongly request that it be covered as part of the previous service call. You should be covered for 90 days. Hopefully they'll just send you a replacement receiver.
If you get 771's on just a few 101 channels, until you get a replacement receiver, it might be easier to just swap tuners: CH A > CH B > CH C > CH A, where CH A is the channel you're trying to swap from tuner 1 to tuner 2, and channels B and C are any two other channels. But time delayed recording of missing tuner 2 channels becomes rather problematic.....
If you just had a dish alignment for which you paid DirecTV $80 (no Protection Plan), and they insist on someone coming by to look at it, I would strongly request that it be covered as part of the previous service call. You should be covered for 90 days. Hopefully they'll just send you a replacement receiver.
Sorry for the delay - I've been out of town at a funeral.K4SMX said:Are you in fact receiving "771 SFSS on Tuner 2" messages? I guess if you're occasionally missing 101 channels when you land on tuner 2, you could always remove the second antenna line and "Repeat Satellite Setup" in the Menu, selecting single tuner operation. That would limit your dual tuner capabilities on all the channels, however.
If you get 771's on just a few 101 channels, until you get a replacement receiver, it might be easier to just swap tuners: CH A > CH B > CH C > CH A, where CH A is the channel you're trying to swap from tuner 1 to tuner 2, and channels B and C are any two other channels. But time delayed recording of missing tuner 2 channels becomes rather problematic.....
If you just had a dish alignment for which you paid DirecTV $80 (no Protection Plan), and they insist on someone coming by to look at it, I would strongly request that it be covered as part of the previous service call. You should be covered for 90 days. Hopefully they'll just send you a replacement receiver.
I am not getting any 771 messages currently, and I'm not sure what channels are on the 101 Sat to begin with. I'm sure there is a resource out there somewhere - but I cannot find it. If I knew what channels were broadcast on the 101, then I could try recording 2 seperate shows on two seperate 101 channels to see what might happen (this might explain some of our blank recordings..)
Also - I have the protection plan, but we have a lot of shows recorded on this IRD that I don't want to lose (if I get another receiver, that is).
But - is the concensus that I've got a bad tuner 2? Some of the transponders come in ok - so I was hoping the problem was something else...(that wouldn't require a new receiver)
I had the machine off when I swapped, then I plugged it in and it went through setup, etc...RobertE said:Did you reboot after swapping the lines/BBCs?
basically, all the SD national stuff is on 101. Also, many local SD channels.DrummerBoy523 said:Sorry for the delay - I've been out of town at a funeral.
I am not getting any 771 messages currently, and I'm not sure what channels are on the 101 Sat to begin with. I'm sure there is a resource out there somewhere - but I cannot find it. If I knew what channels were broadcast on the 101, then I could try recording 2 seperate shows on two seperate 101 channels to see what might happen (this might explain some of our blank recordings..)
Also - I have the protection plan, but we have a lot of shows recorded on this IRD that I don't want to lose (if I get another receiver, that is).
But - is the concensus that I've got a bad tuner 2? Some of the transponders come in ok - so I was hoping the problem was something else...(that wouldn't require a new receiver)
your best bet is to try recording national sd channels.
You have "0's" on several 101 tuner 2 tp's. Tp 9 is one of them.
Here's something to try: The following channels are all on 101, tp 9 - 232, 286, 313, 356, 372, and 374. Try tuning to each of those channels sequentially. If you're really not receiving 101, tp 9 on tuner 2, you'll get a "771 SFSS" message on every other channel on the above list, as the receiver swaps from tuner 1 to tuner 2 every time you change channels.
If you do have 771's every other channel, I'd suggest an overnight "cold reboot." I once had an HR20-700 that had "0's" on a couple of 101 tp's on tuner 2, and no amount of RBR's would bring them back. A cold reboot did, though, and the problem hasn't returned. From the on-screen Menu, go to System Setup > Reset > Restart Recorder. When the front panel lights briefly go out during the reboot (about 5 seconds), pull the AC plug either at the wall/UPS or at the back of the receiver. Then plug it back in the next morning.
Here's something to try: The following channels are all on 101, tp 9 - 232, 286, 313, 356, 372, and 374. Try tuning to each of those channels sequentially. If you're really not receiving 101, tp 9 on tuner 2, you'll get a "771 SFSS" message on every other channel on the above list, as the receiver swaps from tuner 1 to tuner 2 every time you change channels.
If you do have 771's every other channel, I'd suggest an overnight "cold reboot." I once had an HR20-700 that had "0's" on a couple of 101 tp's on tuner 2, and no amount of RBR's would bring them back. A cold reboot did, though, and the problem hasn't returned. From the on-screen Menu, go to System Setup > Reset > Restart Recorder. When the front panel lights briefly go out during the reboot (about 5 seconds), pull the AC plug either at the wall/UPS or at the back of the receiver. Then plug it back in the next morning.
thanks a lot. I'll give it a try tonight.K4SMX said:You have "0's" on several 101 tuner 2 tp's. Tp 9 is one of them.
Here's something to try: The following channels are all on 101, tp 9 - 232, 286, 313, 356, 372, and 374. Try tuning to each of those channels sequentially. If you're really not receiving 101, tp 9 on tuner 2, you'll get a "771 SFSS" message on every other channel on the above list, as the receiver swaps from tuner 1 to tuner 2 every time you change channels.
If you do have 771's every other channel, I'd suggest an overnight "cold reboot." I once had an HR20-700 that had "0's" on a couple of 101 tp's on tuner 2, and no amount of RBR's would bring them back. A cold reboot did, though, and the problem hasn't returned. From the on-screen Menu, go to System Setup > Reset > Restart Recorder. When the front panel lights briefly go out during the reboot (about 5 seconds), pull the AC plug either at the wall/UPS or at the back of the receiver. Then plug it back in the next morning.
tp 4 seems to be the one that is always the lowest. Usually in the 50s & 60s on tuner 1 and in the 30s and 20s on tuner 2. Any clue what channels are broadcast on that tp?K4SMX said:You have "0's" on several 101 tuner 2 tp's. Tp 9 is one of them.
Here's something to try: The following channels are all on 101, tp 9 - 232, 286, 313, 356, 372, and 374. Try tuning to each of those channels sequentially. If you're really not receiving 101, tp 9 on tuner 2, you'll get a "771 SFSS" message on every other channel on the above list, as the receiver swaps from tuner 1 to tuner 2 every time you change channels.
If you do have 771's every other channel, I'd suggest an overnight "cold reboot." I once had an HR20-700 that had "0's" on a couple of 101 tp's on tuner 2, and no amount of RBR's would bring them back. A cold reboot did, though, and the problem hasn't returned. From the on-screen Menu, go to System Setup > Reset > Restart Recorder. When the front panel lights briefly go out during the reboot (about 5 seconds), pull the AC plug either at the wall/UPS or at the back of the receiver. Then plug it back in the next morning.
Suggest you select Signal Meters there you can see both tuners at the same time.DrummerBoy523 said:Anyone have any ideas as to what might cause the difference in signals on the two tuners for 101? Take trnspdr 3 for example: 95 on tuner 1 and 59 for tuner 2.
FYI - I just had a dish alignment and all other tuners are in the high 80s low 90s.
See attached screen shots of the 101. I can provide shots of the other tuners if needed..
Thanks in advance.
Tuner 1:
95 97 95 54 96 100 96 100
96 99 97 0 97 100 95 100
94 100 95 0 96 100 95 100
96 0 95 99 96 100 96 100
Tuner 2:
77 91 59 25 41 79 0 86
0 82 41 0 61 99 78 100
79 100 86 0 94 100 92 100
95 0 95 99 96 100 95 100
Then unless you know what's on that transponder you could be on a Spotbeam Transponder and that could be the reason for the weaker signal.
101, tp 4 is someone else's local spot beam, so you can disregard it. 101 spot beams are 4, 12, 18, 20, 26 and 28.DrummerBoy523 said:tp 4 seems to be the one that is always the lowest. Usually in the 50s & 60s on tuner 1 and in the 30s and 20s on tuner 2. Any clue what channels are broadcast on that tp?
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