[David Ortiz]

"But it would be unfair to those who don't have broadband", says someone on this board, probably.

Would these be the same ones saying no new hardware is coming because TPTB wouldn't waste the money on it?

 

[David Ortiz]

Given that the DIRECTV Stream Device doesn't support DECA, this would be a fairly radical departure and not a drop-in replacement for a Genie Mini.

If only there were a small device that converts coax to Ethernet that you could attach to the C71....

 

[David Ortiz]

If only the c71 had coax.....

If only there were a small device that converts coax to Ethernet that you could attach to the C71....

Given that the DIRECTV Stream Device doesn't support DECA, this would be a fairly radical departure and not a drop-in replacement for a Genie Mini.

What are we going in circles now?

 

[David Ortiz]

DTV abandoned RVU.

All Genie clients use RVU, not just TVs.

Existing Products | RVU Project

rvuproject.org

 

[David Ortiz]

I apologize if this has been mentioned already, but saw this H26K-500 on DirecTV Firmware Watcher
View attachment 32565

I don't remember reading anything about it.

I wonder if it is just a rebranding of the unreleased A21KW-500.

 

[David Ortiz]

The A21KW-500 wouldn't be getting firmware updates from satellite as all signs point to it being a C71K (DIRECTV STREAM Device) alternative...

No client gets its updates from satellite either, but you can see all of the models on RedH. (The Genie servers receive and distribute updates for the clients, ICYDK.)

... and we know how DIRECTV feels about customers having both DIRECTV DBS and DIRECTV STREAM.

Yet there are people with both, not to mention that a client that would work with either service has some merit.

 

[David Ortiz]

The update for the client still comes over the Sat to the Genie then sent to the client. So it still does get its update from the Sat

Did you read the whole sentence? I said all of the client models are listed on RedH, i.e. from the satellites. The point was that a new super duper combo client might show up on RedH.

 

[David Ortiz]

It could be something along those lines.

The new client was supposed to be a broadband device only so there wouldn’t be a need for it to be on there for an firmware update since even the Genies can get there firmware over internet now

It could also be the same devise but maybe a commercial 4K box

The one thing to bear in mind with that website is it has a habit occasionally of showing incorrect data There has been what we’re thought to be new products in there in the past but the website was doing something funky with the data

If a new client shows up that is connected via Ethernet or WiFi only and if it can connect to a Genie server over a LAN, then there may still be a need for firmware updates for it to be distributed by satellite, as Internet access is not required for a Genie/Genie mini system to work.

 

[David Ortiz]

It’s definitely real. I heard about it months ago.

Is it spectacular?

 

[David Ortiz]

True, but the new client is supposed to be an android tv model. There is no speculation that it’s going to work without Internet so connected to a genie without Internet will do nothing for it.

I just speculated that it may work without Internet.

 

[David Ortiz]

That merit washes away when you consider that the DBS product connects via coaxial cable and the STREAM product connects via anything but. Making a single product for both sides would be confusing from a setup and support standpoint as well.

Time will tell.

 

[David Ortiz]

This doesn't make sense as it would preclude the W designation along with denying Wi-fi, MoCA and RF remote capability.

It makes sense if you read the entire paragraph.

 

[David Ortiz]

A Dongle.. Interesting

P for pendant.

 

[David Ortiz]

I assume it will connect to your video bridge wireless same as any client.

So this Gemini device has an ethernet port but you have to have it wired via an ethernet coax adaptor to coax and can’t just use an ethernet cable to your router. But if you use Wi-Fi you only have to connect to your house Wi-Fi.

Set up Gemini device using a wired connection | DIRECTV Customer Service & Support

Learn how to set up your Gemini device using a wired connection.

www.directv.com

Set up Gemini device over Wireless | DIRECTV Customer Service & Support

Learn how to set up your Gemini device on your Wireless network.

www.directv.com

Ok after looking again it does state the micro usb is on the ethernet coax adaptor. But how can it get sat programming from a Genie by just wifi on the home network if one chooses not to hardwire via the ethernet coax adaptor?

From the Get Help page:

If you see error code 630, your DIRECTV Gemini Device is unable to connect to your Wireless Video Bridge.

 

[David Ortiz]

I meant c71k currently used with stream and I’m thinking that’s going to work with satellite as a genie client now. The pendant seems to be a dongle for stream service.

From the set up page:

2. Plug the HDMI cable into your device and the other end into your TV.

The Gemini device has an HDMI port. The pendant presumably has an attached HDMI cable stub.

 

[David Ortiz]

I think it’s the c71 being used as a genie client.

Bingo! (At least it looks like the C71.)

https://www.reddit.com/r/DirectvStream/comments/yt6i6r/_/iwt15e1

 

[David Ortiz]

Thanks. I thought I had seen it somwhere about HR44/HR54 but then couldn't find it.

It's possible there will be a pilot rollout limited to the Genie 2 and specific markets.

 

[David Ortiz]

Stuart makes it clear that his blog entry is speculation with respect to the C71KW app getting client capability; however well-reasoned it may be.

I question his assertion that today's streaming devices are obviously more powerful than the C71KW.

Obviously, there will need to be an app for the dongle but that doesn't insure that it will be made available for the C71KW.

And yet the info on directv.com describe a device called Gemini, that has an Ethernet and HDMI port, uses the Wireless Video Bridge if not wired, and is added as a client directly to a Genie. I have not been posting about the P21KW.

 

[David Ortiz]

Got mine ordered. What a debacle. First rep said I need to upgrade my genie (I have a genie2) second rep said not available yet. Escalated and called me back and got it ordered through my protection plan free upgrade. It is a c71 running satellite software supposedly. Said launch was today for select markets with internet connected genie 2 only. Oh and it’s drop ship only to start. I’ll be swapping a couple of my 4K clients.

Do you know which are the select markets?

 

[David Ortiz]

Got mine ordered. What a debacle. First rep said I need to upgrade my genie (I have a genie2) second rep said not available yet. Escalated and called me back and got it ordered through my protection plan free upgrade. It is a c71 running satellite software supposedly. Said launch was today for select markets with internet connected genie 2 only. Oh and it’s drop ship only to start. I’ll be swapping a couple of my 4K clients.

According to this article, the markets are Oklahoma City, Nashville and Birmingham.

DirecTV Testing Gemini Hardware | Distribution | Cablefax

Select DirecTV customers have been selected for a trial to test its next-generation hardware, Gemini.

www.cablefax.com