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Good Afternnon:

First, please forgive any duplications in my many questions below. I had done my best at searching the forums, but have found little info and even less details about some of my questions. I moved from DirecTV and TiVo on Friday to Dish Network and the ViP622. Obviously, coming from the TiVo world, I have many questions/comments. I had two DVRs installed, one 622 and the other the regular DVR. Each DVR has its own TV and is not connected to anything else. So, in the true'st of TiVo fashions, each TV has sole control of both their respective DVR's tuners. Additionally, for this discussion purpose, I have the DVRs in SINGLE Mode (which is what I "think" I would want in this case).

1. I noticed that when my kids turned on the HD DVR's TV the screen was blank and had to turn on the HD DVR. After reading the (poorly developed) manul, I noted the default of "Off after 4 hours of inactivitly" setting and DISABLED this function. I found that turning on the HD DVR was troublesome (after seeing it for the first time) since it asked a couple of questions when the DVR was turned back on (seems like it was something about mapping the remote - perhaps not). Regardless, I do not understand why the DVR would ever need to power "off" or go into standby. However I did see several post mentioing a software release and installing only after the DVR has powered off. Can someone detail why I should or should not allow the DVR to power off and what screens I shuold expect when I power back on should it turn off.

2. I noticed that unlike TiVo, I was unable to pause one tuner, switch to the other, and then return back to the paused tuner - and it still be paused. Apparently, when you switch tuners the tuner you are leaving, if paused, will return/jump to "live" TV. This is very Un-TiVo like, since I have gotten very used to watching two live programs at once. I did note that a work around would be to pause the tuner, open my PiP, swap, and tune into the new channel I want to watch. With PiP open I am able to pause each tuner. Am I missing something in my setup, or it this a function I will have to get used to. One would think that if it can pause two tuners at once (with PiP open), you can pause two tuners with PiP closed.

3. I noticed that since I have my local channel guide priority set to HD, my channel guide lists the HD in the "station number area" (for me - Washington DC -channels 4,5,7 and 9). Likewise, my OTA channels also reside in this area. As such, my guide will show two each of the local channels - all of which come in great. Additionally, I noted that my local channels also show up in the 8000 area as well as the 6000 area. Can anyone explain the reasoning for so many additional listings for the same local channels?

4. I have read in this forum that my 622 HD DVR can record via three tuners - one each of the HD tuners as well as the OTA channels. Can someone explain this. Am I to assume that you can record two programs as well as watch/record a third on any of the "yellow" channels listed in the guide??

I know this is alot to ask, however any assistance anyone can provide is greatly appreciated!!:)

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Hopefully this answers your questions ....

okypinoky said:
1. I noticed that when my kids turned on the HD DVR's TV the screen was blank and had to turn on the HD DVR. After reading the (poorly developed) manul, I noted the default of "Off after 4 hours of inactivitly" setting and DISABLED this function. I found that turning on the HD DVR was troublesome (after seeing it for the first time) since it asked a couple of questions when the DVR was turned back on (seems like it was something about mapping the remote - perhaps not). Regardless, I do not understand why the DVR would ever need to power "off" or go into standby. However I did see several post mentioing a software release and installing only after the DVR has powered off. Can someone detail why I should or should not allow the DVR to power off and what screens I shuold expect when I power back on should it turn off.
You should let it go into standby. Your receiver will not download On Demand content unless it is in stanby. When you are in standby you should see a bouncing dish network logo screensaver. You can hit the power button or select button on the remote to take it out of standby.

2. I noticed that unlike TiVo, I was unable to pause one tuner, switch to the other, and then return back to the paused tuner - and it still be paused. Apparently, when you switch tuners the tuner you are leaving, if paused, will return/jump to "live" TV. This is very Un-TiVo like, since I have gotten very used to watching two live programs at once. I did note that a work around would be to pause the tuner, open my PiP, swap, and tune into the new channel I want to watch. With PiP open I am able to pause each tuner. Am I missing something in my setup, or it this a function I will have to get used to. One would think that if it can pause two tuners at once (with PiP open), you can pause two tuners with PiP closed.
This is how it works today, at least for now it's something you have to get used to.

3. I noticed that since I have my local channel guide priority set to HD, my channel guide lists the HD in the "station number area" (for me - Washington DC -channels 4,5,7 and 9). Likewise, my OTA channels also reside in this area. As such, my guide will show two each of the local channels - all of which come in great. Additionally, I noted that my local channels also show up in the 8000 area as well as the 6000 area. Can anyone explain the reasoning for so many additional listings for the same local channels?
The 8000 range channels are your local SD channels, here you should find ALL your local channels.

The 6000 range channels are your local HD channels, here you will typically only get the 4 big networks, ABC, FOX, NBC, and CBS.

The channels with -01/-02/etc .... are your OTA channels, they are also a different color in the guide.

The channels that match your local channels with -00 are your mapped down local channels. This is the receiver taking either the 6000 channels if they exist (HD Priority) along with the remaining 8000 channels, and mapping them to match the station number you are familiar with. If you set this to SD Priority it will only map down the 8000 range so you'd see only SD channels in the mapped down channel range.

If you want to hit the additional copies in the higher range you can always make favorite lists that do not include those copies.

4. I have read in this forum that my 622 HD DVR can record via three tuners - one each of the HD tuners as well as the OTA channels. Can someone explain this. Am I to assume that you can record two programs as well as watch/record a third on any of the "yellow" channels listed in the guide??
 

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okypinoky said:
Good Afternnon:

First, please forgive any duplications in my many questions below. I had done my best at searching the forums, but have found little info and even less details about some of my questions. I moved from DirecTV and TiVo on Friday to Dish Network and the ViP622. Obviously, coming from the TiVo world, I have many questions/comments. I had two DVRs installed, one 622 and the other the regular DVR. Each DVR has its own TV and is not connected to anything else. So, in the true'st of TiVo fashions, each TV has sole control of both their respective DVR's tuners. Additionally, for this discussion purpose, I have the DVRs in SINGLE Mode (which is what I "think" I would want in this case).
I will try and reply.

1. I noticed that when my kids turned on the HD DVR's TV the screen was blank and had to turn on the HD DVR. After reading the (poorly developed) manul, I noted the default of "Off after 4 hours of inactivitly" setting and DISABLED this function. I found that turning on the HD DVR was troublesome (after seeing it for the first time) since it asked a couple of questions when the DVR was turned back on (seems like it was something about mapping the remote - perhaps not). Regardless, I do not understand why the DVR would ever need to power "off" or go into standby. However I did see several post mentioing a software release and installing only after the DVR has powered off. Can someone detail why I should or should not allow the DVR to power off and what screens I shuold expect when I power back on should it turn off.
Couple of reasons why one would want to place the Receiver in Standby when not in use. One of them is software updates and it allows the receiver to perform off line tasks that he needs to perform like VOD update TV Entertainment downloads, and it might even do guide updates if it feels it needs to. Might be wrong on the third one, but it is always a good idea to put your 622 in standby when not in use or at a minimum place it in standby when going to bed. The 622 remote can be set to turn off both the TV and the DVR with one push of the button. If you are using a universal remote you should be able to accomplish both. As for the black screen, You should not get a black screen with the 622 in standby, you should see a Dish logo telling you to press select to continue.

2. I noticed that unlike TiVo, I was unable to pause one tuner, switch to the other, and then return back to the paused tuner - and it still be paused. Apparently, when you switch tuners the tuner you are leaving, if paused, will return/jump to "live" TV. This is very Un-TiVo like, since I have gotten very used to watching two live programs at once. I did note that a work around would be to pause the tuner, open my PiP, swap, and tune into the new channel I want to watch. With PiP open I am able to pause each tuner. Am I missing something in my setup, or it this a function I will have to get used to. One would think that if it can pause two tuners at once (with PiP open), you can pause two tuners with PiP closed.
Pip Swap pause

1) Open Pip Window
2) Press Pause to pause current program.
3) Press pip swap to switch to other tuner.

The first tuner should show in the pip window paused. Well not sure why Pause does not stick between tuner switches but hopefully they will address this short coming in a future release.

3. I noticed that since I have my local channel guide priority set to HD, my channel guide lists the HD in the "station number area" (for me - Washington DC -channels 4,5,7 and 9). Likewise, my OTA channels also reside in this area. As such, my guide will show two each of the local channels - all of which come in great. Additionally, I noted that my local channels also show up in the 8000 area as well as the 6000 area. Can anyone explain the reasoning for so many additional listings for the same local channels?
I think this is an artifact of allowing one to map both SD and HD into the same slot. The other possible reason is that there is more than one set of locals on a particular satellite so what they do is provide slots for all of them and then map them to the lower numbers. Just a guess, but seems logical to me. ;)

4. I have read in this forum that my 622 HD DVR can record via three tuners - one each of the HD tuners as well as the OTA channels. Can someone explain this. Am I to as programs as well as watch/record a third on any of the "yellow" channels listed in the guide??
Yes you can record any two Sat Channels plus an OTA channel and still be able to watch something you recorded.

I would suggest taking a look the stickies on top of this forum. I would read the reviews for both the 942 and 622 since they do include some useful "how to use" the box info. I would also suggest, looking at the tip links since they do dive into the 3 shows at the same time issue more if I recall.

The 622 definitely has some difference to the TIVO, but I think given some time you will get use to how it works and find that you can accomplish the tasks you need to.
 
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