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· Godfather
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Okay, I just got my new Hopper (no Joeys) yesterday, and overall I am impressed.

However, I started watching a NASCAR race today (recorded event, still recording.) Paused it. Went to the DVR screen. My only choices are More Info, Live, Stop and Start Over. Whether I push Play before Select, Select, or Start Over, the only thing it does is Start Over. I lose my place in playback. Pushing Live goes to the Live event - not my place in the program, which I would expect.

When I do the same thing with a program that has finished recording, Resume shows up as an option, and I do not lose my place.

Is this a bug? Am I doing something wrong? Why is there no Resume on an event that is currently being recorded, and only partially watched?
 

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Try pushing pause to pause, then pause again to play. Dish's dvr screens have never had the resume button while program is still recording. If you change tuners or turn off the receiver, you usually lose the resume point as well (again only when program is still recording).
 
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sregener said:
Okay, I just got my new Hopper (no Joeys) yesterday, and overall I am impressed.

However, I started watching a NASCAR race today (recorded event, still recording.) Paused it. Went to the DVR screen. My only choices are More Info, Live, Stop and Start Over. Whether I push Play before Select, Select, or Start Over, the only thing it does is Start Over. I lose my place in playback. Pushing Live goes to the Live event - not my place in the program, which I would expect.

When I do the same thing with a program that has finished recording, Resume shows up as an option, and I do not lose my place.

Is this a bug? Am I doing something wrong? Why is there no Resume on an event that is currently being recorded, and only partially watched?
If you continue to have issues with this please send me a PM with your phone or account number so I can assist you further. Thank you!
 

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I'm D*. When I exit from a recording that is still recording when I go back, whether it is shortly thereafter or the next day, my option is to resume. Are you saying this won't work on the Hopper? Or is it just a nomenclature issue. I just tried it on my DVR and it resumed from the recorded spot using all methods, pause or exit. I ask because I am considering switching from D* to the Hopper.
 

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With DISH if you exit a recording in progress your only option when you come back it starting from the beginning. You can only resume playback of a recording that was completed before you stopped.
 

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sregener said:
Paused it. Went to the DVR screen. ... I lose my place in playback.
Exit the DVR screen using the remote's Cancel button. Un-pause or Play.
 

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BobaBird said:
Exit the DVR screen using the remote's Cancel button. Un-pause or Play.
If it's like my VIPs play will not start it again. It advances it a little and then stays paused, or sometimes does nothing. Cancel will leave it at the same place when you come back, and hitting pause again will restart from where you paused.
 

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Well this has been an education, to say the least. My DTVPal didn't do this.

I am in the habit of watching live sporting events before they are over. When I catch up or need to switch the program for someone else, I have always paused the playback, watched something else, and then come back. From the sounds of it, this is not possible with the Dish DVRs. If I would wait until the program is over and then start watching it, Resume would be an option. I'm not yet clear on what would happen if I started watching a recording that was still going but finished before I paused it - would I be in the no resume mode or the resume mode?

It is an obvious flaw. Saying "you have to understand how it works" is nonsense. If it is a design flaw (which it sound like it is) then it should either be fixed or an explanation given. I suspect it is a patent issue where TiVo holds the rights to this feature, and Dish won't pay for it. If it is a bug, then it is odd that is carries over to multiple models.

Can I workaround the problem? Yes. But it's a bit of a pain, and I shouldn't have to write down time codes to remember where I was. That's why God invented DVRs to begin with.
 

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sregener said:
Well this has been an education, to say the least. My DTVPal didn't do this.

I am in the habit of watching live sporting events before they are over. When I catch up or need to switch the program for someone else, I have always paused the playback, watched something else, and then come back. From the sounds of it, this is not possible with the Dish DVRs. If I would wait until the program is over and then start watching it, Resume would be an option. I'm not yet clear on what would happen if I started watching a recording that was still going but finished before I paused it - would I be in the no resume mode or the resume mode?

It is an obvious flaw. Saying "you have to understand how it works" is nonsense. If it is a design flaw (which it sound like it is) then it should either be fixed or an explanation given. I suspect it is a patent issue where TiVo holds the rights to this feature, and Dish won't pay for it. If it is a bug, then it is odd that is carries over to multiple models.

Can I workaround the problem? Yes. But it's a bit of a pain, and I shouldn't have to write down time codes to remember where I was. That's why God invented DVRs to begin with.
That missing function is really a show stopper for a lot of people. I can't imagine having to time mark where I left off. I use this function a lot.
 

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DIRT gave me the solution. Instead of pressing "Pause" and then hitting DVR/Guide/Channel#, I should instead be pressing "Swap". This pauses the currently playing program and switches to the previous live channel. Then I can use the Guide, the DVR button to select other programs, or hit channel numbers to my heart's content. When I'm done, I press "Swap" again, and I'm back at my program, right where I left off. Note that I cannot select the program itself from the DVR menu - then I do not have a resume button to press - but I can still get back by pressing swap.

The only issue I can see with this solution is if all 3 tuners are in use - then there's nothing available to "Swap" to.

For me, at least, this is a workable solution. I don't think I'll often have all 3 tuners in use. Those of you with Joeys might, though...
 

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sregener said:
I'm not yet clear on what would happen if I started watching a recording that was still going but finished before I paused it - would I be in the no resume mode or the resume mode?
The recording would be finished so resume would be an option.
 

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"sregener" said:
DIRT gave me the solution. Instead of pressing "Pause" and then hitting DVR/Guide/Channel#, I should instead be pressing "Swap". This pauses the currently playing program and switches to the previous live channel. Then I can use the Guide, the DVR button to select other programs, or hit channel numbers to my heart's content. When I'm done, I press "Swap" again, and I'm back at my program, right where I left off. Note that I cannot select the program itself from the DVR menu - then I do not have a resume button to press - but I can still get back by pressing swap.

The only issue I can see with this solution is if all 3 tuners are in use - then there's nothing available to "Swap" to.

For me, at least, this is a workable solution. I don't think I'll often have all 3 tuners in use. Those of you with Joeys might, though...
Does this work around apply to a Joey too or just the Hopper?
 

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I don't have a hopper, but on a 622/722 if I "catch up" to live programming, I just stop the recording at a commercial, delete that, and start another recording for the end of the program (if it's sports remember to add time at the end in case it runs over allotted times). Then I don't have to find my place in the recording, which works beautifully for me.

I have never considered it a bug. It's just the way they work. :shrug:
 

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Charise said:
I don't have a hopper, but on a 622/722 if I "catch up" to live programming, I just stop the recording at a commercial, delete that, and start another recording for the end of the program (if it's sports remember to add time at the end in case it runs over allotted times). Then I don't have to find my place in the recording, which works beautifully for me.

I have never considered it a bug. It's just the way they work. :shrug:
Seems like a shortcoming to me.
 
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