[COPTERDOCTOR]

It has been too long of a wait! HD OTA content not belonging to Directv, but being recorded in HD seems more likely the problem. Only Lawyers can slow things down this bad!:lol: Does anybody really know?????

 

[RunnerFL]

It's not a legal issue... The HR10-250 already records OTA HD. If it were a legal issue the HR10 wouldn't be able to record OTA HD either.

 

[PoitNarf]

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If that were the case, then why are existing DVRs able to record OTA.

It's a software thing, no conspiracies.

Now I await this thread to become a 10 page long crapfest which I will no longer pay attention to. Have at it guys.

 

[COPTERDOCTOR]

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If that were the case, then why are existing DVRs able to record OTA.

It's a software thing, no conspiracies.

Now I await this thread to become a 10 page long crapfest which I will no longer pay attention to. Have at it guys.

I was married to a Federal Prosecutor for 5 years, and saw first hand how lawyers drag things out for years and this info was the excuse my installer used, when I asked why the OTA did not work. He was in A DIRECTV VAN and wearing a DIRECTV shirt.

I don't know, but I was told!

 

[RunnerFL]

He was in A DIRECTV VAN and wearing a DIRECTV shirt.

Which means absolutely nothing because he's a sub-contractor.

 

[PoitNarf]

I was married to a Federal Prosecutor for 5 years, and saw first hand how lawyers drag things out for years and this info was the excuse my installer used, when I asked why the OTA did not work. He was in A DIRECTV VAN and wearing a DIRECTV shirt.

I don't know, but I was told!

The best source we have here is Earl. He says it's not out yet due to bugs with the software. I tend to believe him more than any installers, no matter what their shirt says.

 

[COPTERDOCTOR]

Which means absolutely nothing because he's a sub-contractor.

That's why I said, "I don't know but I was told", but having said that one would assume he would have to be real creative to tell that fish story.

 

[iceman2a]

It has been too long of a wait! HD OTA content not belonging to Directv, but being recorded in HD seems more likely the problem. Only Lawyers can slow things down this bad!:lol: Does anybody really know?????

AH....NO!

 

[hasan]

I was married to a Federal Prosecutor for 5 years, and saw first hand how lawyers drag things out for years and this info was the excuse my installer used, when I asked why the OTA did not work. He was in A DIRECTV VAN and wearing a DIRECTV shirt.

I don't know, but I was told!

Well...you were told wrong. It'll be here soon, lawyers aside. You'll get better info here than from most installers and nearly every D* rep. (If you can wade through the crap)

 

[Spongeweed]

Well...you were told wrong. It'll be here soon, lawyers aside. You'll get better info here than from most installers and nearly every D* rep. (If you can wade through the crap)

What he said,

 

[bpayne]

That's why I said, "I don't know but I was told", but having said that one would assume he would have to be real creative to tell that fish story.

3 weeks before the HR20 was nationally released, I gave a presentation to 150+ detailing my experiences w/the HR20 as a beta tester, known issues and bugs, feature comparisons between the HR20 and the HR10-250 and so forth. I went out of my way to disclose to them that OTA port was inactive and would not be activated for some time.

The common response was relief as their thought process was their installation and upgrade times would lower slightly by not having to struggle to install the OTA like they had with the HD-Tivo.

Fast forward a few weeks later- I'm getting calls from techs asking "I see the selection for "Satellite & Antenna" grayed out- how do I get it work?"

Each meeting, I would bring this issue up: "OTA port is not active etc. Please don't call me asking how to turn it on." Still got calls. Sent out memos. Still got calls.

Finally- we had a meeting and I told them why the OTA port was disabled: "Recording conflicts."

..."confused looks"...

"Everyone know about all the recording issues the R-15 has? Partial recordings, garbled or corrupted recordings?" I asked.

Everyone nodded their heads because this is one of the more frustrating issues to deal with as a tech- being sent out to fix something they have absolutely no control over like software bugs.

"If they turned on the OTA port tomorrow, the HR20 would have recording conflicts so bad, it would make the R15 look as reliable as a Tivo."

Haven't gotten a call since.

But... I like that theory alot more- it's a much better than saying, "I don't really know because I wasn't paying attention when I was being told the facts."

DISCLAIMER: There are other reasons why the OTA feature is being delayed than recording conflicts. To me, this is just the most important one.

 

[COPTERDOCTOR]

3 weeks before the HR20 was nationally released, I gave a presentation to 150+ detailing my experiences w/the HR20 as a beta tester, known issues and bugs, feature comparisons between the HR20 and the HR10-250 and so forth. I went out of my way to disclose to them that OTA port was inactive and would not be activated for some time.

The common response was relief as their thought process was their installation and upgrade times would lower slightly by not having to struggle to install the OTA like they had with the HD-Tivo.

Fast forward a few weeks later- I'm getting calls from techs asking "I see the selection for "Satellite & Antenna" grayed out- how do I get it work?"

Each meeting, I would bring this issue up: "OTA port is not active etc. Please don't call me asking how to turn it on." Still got calls. Sent out memos. Still got calls.

Finally- we had a meeting and I told them why the OTA port was disabled: "Recording conflicts."

..."confused looks"...

"Everyone know about all the recording issues the R-15 has? Partial recordings, garbled or corrupted recordings?" I asked.

Everyone nodded their heads because this is one of the more frustrating issues to deal with as a tech- being sent out to fix something they have absolutely no control over like software bugs.

"If they turned on the OTA port tomorrow, the HR20 would have recording conflicts so bad, it would make the R15 look as reliable as a Tivo."

Haven't gotten a call since.

But... I like that theory alot more- it's a much better than saying, "I don't really know because I wasn't paying attention when I was being told the facts."

DISCLAIMER: There are other reasons why the OTA feature is being delayed than recording conflicts. To me, this is just the most important one.

It does seem they should give it a try. I am using Windows Vista on this laptop and even Microsoft gives it a "try" first. I understand they have been busy putting out other FIRES, but this OTA is important as a major feature. I think a trial and failure to fix bugs is better than not trying at all! VISTA is great by the way!

 

[naijai]

It has been too long of a wait! HD OTA content not belonging to Directv, but being recorded in HD seems more likely the problem. Only Lawyers can slow things down this bad! Does anybody really know?????

So why would Directv not be able to record OTA content available via an antenna and then other non-provider DVR's can do so

 

[Earl Bonovich]

Seriously now....

There is no legality issues behind the delay.
OTA has a significant software component behind it... and they are simply trying to make sure it works before they turn it on.

 

[houskamp]

Seriously now....

There is no legality issues behind the delay.
OTA has a significant software component behind it... and they are simply trying to make sure it works before they turn it on.

make sure it works? oh no we'll never get it now :lol:

 

[matto]

Remember.. an OTA tuner is a piece of groundbreaking technology. As early adopters, we need to remember that we shouldn't expect this sort of space-age wizardry to work

 

[Guitar Hero]

OTA? I still want my recording failures and freeze-ups to stop occurring! Then, and only then, do I want D* to tackle the OTA situation!

Just today, I had yet another freeze-up and this past week I've had 4 partial (failed) recordings.

 

[Capmeister]

Remember.. an OTA tuner is a piece of groundbreaking technology. As early adopters, we need to remember that we shouldn't expect this sort of space-age wizardry to work

They're building their own cars from scratch after having used the Tivo limos for years. And this is a luxury car. So I'm cutting them slack. Not forever, but at least until the first of the year. If come Jan 1 I'm still having as many problems, I will consider other options.

 

[juan ellitinez]

I think the real reason is that D* made a significant investment in satellites and such to bring crappy mpeg 4 locals to as many communities as possible. D* wants to recoup these costs throgh subcriptions to these crappy quality locals. IF E* can enable OTA in their receivers there is absolutly no other reason d* cant do the same

 

[wakajawaka]

I think the real reason is that D* made a significant investment in satellites and such to bring crappy mpeg 4 locals to as many communities as possible. D* wants to recoup these costs throgh subcriptions to these crappy quality locals. IF E* can enable OTA in their receivers there is absolutly no other reason d* cant do the same

My MPEG4 locals look fantastic. Not everything is a conspiracy.