[gomezma1]

I have completed my obligation with D but do not want to extend my contract by upgrading equipment. How are people obtaining equpiment like a H25 and considering it owned when it has not even been out that long. I want to upgrade to HD but do not want to buy a HD receiver and get another two years added. Can someone please answer my question?

 

[dpeters11]

There are a few ways. Buying one directly from DirecTV for full price through the access card department, replacing an owned receiver under the protection plan and getting lucky enough. Buying one from an employee (though it has been said the rules have changed there.) those are the main ways of getting an owned box like a 25.

 

[Davenlr]

Buy an owned one from a) a DirecTv employee selling one, b) a person in the test program selling one, or c) from DirecTv access card department.

In all cases except c), verify the RID number with the access card department to make sure it is owned, and available for transfer to your account. A $20 access card fee will apply.

 

[gomezma1]

I sent D an email. Then Directv sent me an email and told me that if I buy from an authorized retailer that it would be considered owned but would have to commit to two more years.

 

[dpeters11]

Danger! Danger Will Robinson!

That is not accurate. If you get one for $100 from a reseller, it is leased with two year. If you buy one owned, you'd pay more (even used), no contract.

Keep in mind though, if you got a 25, you would need to have SWM.

If I were getting one, and one wasn't posted in the buy/sell forum, I'd call the access card department and ask the price. Do not go through a regular CSR, only the access card department. This is an exception to the you get whatever we send rule, but you'll still need to deal with getting the rest of the system upgraded.

 

[JoeTheDragon]

Buy an owned one from a) a DirecTv employee selling one, b) a person in the test program selling one, or c) from DirecTv access card department.

In all cases except c), verify the RID number with the access card department to make sure it is owned, and available for transfer to your account. A $20 access card fee will apply.

I think that Commercial Customer boxes are owned as well.

 

[dpeters11]

And all HR21Pros but that won't help the OP.

 

[litzdog911]

Why is it so important that your H25 be "owned"? Worst case if you terminate early you'll just to have to pay a penalty. But the total cost, even with the penalty, will likely be cheaper than the "full price" own the box outright without a 2-year commitment.

Generally the only real benefit to "owning" is if you want to frequently activate and deactivate the Receiver.

 

[Richierich]

Generally the only real benefit to "owning" is if you want to frequently activate and deactivate the Receiver.

Or you want to be able to Replace the small drive with a large 2 TB Internal Drive without Violating the Directv TOS Agreement!!!

 

[dpeters11]

Good luck doing that on an H25

Or on a DVR use an external drive, if money is no object, a raid 1 setup is better than one drive.

 

[Richierich]

Or on a DVR use an external drive, if money is no object, a raid 1 setup is better than one drive.

Not if you use a DVR as a Backup DVR so you can simulaneously Replicate those Recordings you don't want to lose plus you have a DVR in other Bedrooms for Guests and I have 350 Series Links also plus 14 Tuners to Record What I Want Where I Want and if one DVR fails I have those Recordings Backed Up on another DVR.

Of course, this Backup Method is Not for everyone!!! :lol:

 

[litzdog911]

Or you want to be able to Replace the small drive with a large 2 TB Internal Drive without Violating the Directv TOS Agreement!!!

The OP asked about an H25 HD Receiver, not an HD DVR.

 

[Richierich]

The OP asked about an H25 HD Receiver, not an HD DVR.

Yes, I know but you Never Know that he may just think about buying an Owned HR24 and then put a 2 TB Drive in it and be done!!!

Just giving him Options.

 

[bobvick1983]

And all HR21Pros but that won't help the OP.

You are correct about that, but if anyone buys one, you about have to go through an act of congress to get it changed to owned.
When I got one from Beach Audio about two weeks ago, I was assured when I activated it that it was owned.
So, just to be sure, I called, and they had it is a HR21-200 leased.
So, I sent an E-Mail to the office of the president, they said that it was leased too, that I did not pay the full $599 price for it, and therefore it was a lease, they kept telling me that the serial number I gave them showed up as a HR21-200, not a HR21P
Finally, I called the access card department, sent them a fax of the invoice, and a fax of photographs of the back of the receiver where the serial number, model number, etc.. is and a photo of the box that the receiver itself came in.
FINALLY, they called me back from the access card department and said they had updated it to a HR21P-200 in the system, and that it was owned.
I got it for $234 which I thought was probably a pretty good deal. I wanted the HR21P because I could own it, and I took out the 500GB hard drive and put in a 2TB drive.

 

[veryoldschool]

You are correct about that, but if anyone buys one, you about have to go through an act of congress to get it changed to owned.
When I got one from Beach Audio about two weeks ago, I was assured when I activated it that it was owned.

Anyone that does have an owned [new/used] receiver, might be wise to start with the access card department in the beginning to get it listed as owned.

 

[bobvick1983]

Anyone that does have an owned [new/used] receiver, might be wise to start with the access card department in the beginning to get it listed as owned.

Good advise. Had I known, that is where I would have went. Anyway I got it fixed but learned the hard way.

 

[Jon J]

Since the monthly statements no longer list receivers as "additional" (owned) or "leased", it might be a good idea to confirm your owned receivers with the AC team .

 

[wingrider01]

Anyone that does have an owned [new/used] receiver, might be wise to start with the access card department in the beginning to get it listed as owned.

had a owned hr20 replaced with a hr21 through the protection plan, the frontline rep was able to activate it as owned, have verified since then with the access card department that it is actually flagged as owned, so it appears that frontline people can do it also

 

[joshjr]

You are correct about that, but if anyone buys one, you about have to go through an act of congress to get it changed to owned.
When I got one from Beach Audio about two weeks ago, I was assured when I activated it that it was owned.
So, just to be sure, I called, and they had it is a HR21-200 leased.
So, I sent an E-Mail to the office of the president, they said that it was leased too, that I did not pay the full $599 price for it, and therefore it was a lease, they kept telling me that the serial number I gave them showed up as a HR21-200, not a HR21P
Finally, I called the access card department, sent them a fax of the invoice, and a fax of photographs of the back of the receiver where the serial number, model number, etc.. is and a photo of the box that the receiver itself came in.
FINALLY, they called me back from the access card department and said they had updated it to a HR21P-200 in the system, and that it was owned.
I got it for $234 which I thought was probably a pretty good deal. I wanted the HR21P because I could own it, and I took out the 500GB hard drive and put in a 2TB drive.

Talk about the hard way. I own a few HR24's but have been curious about owning my HR34. I guess one way to own any receiver you currently have is to deactivate it and then just pay the DNR fee and then activate it back as owned. At this time D* does not seem to have pricing for a DNR HR34.

 

[veryoldschool]

Talk about the hard way. I own a few HR24's but have been curious about owning my HR34. I guess one way to own any receiver you currently have is to deactivate it and then just pay the DNR fee and then activate it back as owned. At this time D* does not seem to have pricing for a DNR HR34.

Not sure what you mean by DNR fee, but I believe I've read posts that if you pay the non returned equipment fee, that you can't reactivate the receiver or get it changed to owned status.