[TNGTony]

From www.dishchannelchart.com

the following from http://www.nebraska.tv/news/local/4770141.html
...effective Friday, December 1, DISH subscribers will lose access to all Pappas stations currently being carried on the DISH Network. After protracted negotiations, Pappas and DISH have been unable to reach agreement to extend their existing carriage arrangements beyond the expiration date of November 30.
Stations affected are the following:
Channel 7191 KMEG TV 14 (CBS) Sioux City IA
Channel 7193 KPTH TV 44 (Fox) Sioux City, IA
Channel 7269 WCWG TV 20 (CW) Lexington (Greensboro, NC)
Channel 7553 KTVG TV 17 (Fox) Grand Island (Lincoln, NE)
Channel 7584 KDBC TV 4 (CBS) El Paso
Channel 8011 KAZA TV 54 (Azteca) Avalon (Los Angeles)
Channel 8381 KAZH TV 57 (Azteca) Baytown (Houston)
Channel 8231 KTNC TV 42 (Azteca) Concord (San Francisco)
Channel 8641 KTNC TV 42 (Azteca) Concord (Sacramento)
Channel 8968 KMPH TV 26 (Fox) Visalia (Fresno)
Channel 8969 KFRE TV 59 (CW) Sanger (Fresno)
Channel 9004 KREN TV 27 (CW) Reno
Channel 9114 KCWI TV 23 (CW) Ames (Des Moines)
Channel 9143 KPTM TV 42 (Fox) Omaha
Channel 9144 KXVO TV 15 (CW) Omaha

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Press release http://www.pappastv.com/pressdetail.php?id=93&prYr=2006

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE November 29, 2006

Contact:
Peter C. Pappas
Executive Vice President/
Legal and Government Affairs
Pappas Telecasting Companies
875 Fifteenth Street, NW
Washington, DC 20005
(202) 551-1944 (O)
(202) 551-1945 (F)
[email protected]

Mike Angelos
Vice President/Corporate Communications
Pappas Telecasting Companies
500 S. Chinowth Rd.
Visalia, CA 93277
(559) 733-7800 (O)
(559) 636-5558 (F)
[email protected]
www.pappastv.com

DISH Subscribers Also to Lose Access to Illegally-Imported Distant Network Signals in Accordance with Federal Court Mandate on December 1

Visalia, California - - Pappas Telecasting Companies, the largest privately-held, commercial television broadcast group in the United States, today advised its viewers that effective Friday, December 1, DISH Network customers will lose access to network-affiliated broadcast stations owned or operated by Pappas that DISH has been illegally importing from other television markets. This stems from a federal court ruling that DISH has engaged in a pattern of violating the copyright laws of the United States by illegally retransmitting network signals throughout the country. Under the ruling, the court mandated that all "distant" network signals be removed from the DISH Network, effective December 1.

Additionally, effective Friday, December 1, DISH subscribers will lose access to all Pappas stations currently being carried on the DISH Network. After protracted negotiations, Pappas and DISH have been unable to reach agreement to extend their existing carriage arrangements beyond the expiration date of November 30. Nearly two million subscribers who currently receive Pappas stations through DISH Network will be affected. Pappas has successfully concluded retransmission consent agreements with EchoStar's competitor, DirecTV, and the major cable system operators in Pappas' markets.

The affected stations are affiliated with FOX, CBS, ABC, The CW, and Azteca America, and are the local broadcast homes of popular network programs such as American Idol, 24, House, NFL Football, the Bowl Championship Series, NCAA Football and Basketball, CSI, Desperate Housewives, Grey's Anatomy, America's Next Top Model, Smallville, 7th Heaven, Major League Soccer, and the 2007 Super Bowl.

Harry J. Pappas, Chairman and CEO of Pappas Telecasting Companies, said, "It may surprise our DISH viewers to know that, while DISH is charging them $5.99 per month just for their free local broadcast stations like the ones owned or operated by our company, DISH is unwilling to pay even a modest price - less than 19 cents out of the $6 per month they charge their customers - to the local stations that must spend millions of dollars to buy - or to produce - this programming. Our stations' ratings demonstrate that our programming is of high value to our loyal viewers. We encourage those viewers to contact EchoStar in order to make sure that their opinions are heard loud and clear."

The stations and markets affected are KAZA/Los Angeles; KTNC/San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose; KAZH/Houston; WCWG/Greensboro-High Point-Winston Salem; KMPH and KFRE/Fresno-Visalia California; KCWI/Des Moines-Ames, Iowa; KPTM and KXVO/Omaha; KDBC/El Paso; KHGI and KTVG/Lincoln & Hastings-Kearney, Nebraska; KREN/Reno, Nevada; and KPTH and KMEG/Sioux City, Iowa.

This situation only affects DISH Network subscribers. Viewers of Pappas stations have other options available to them:

1. Free Over-The-Air Television. This free option is always available, and free over-the-air reception of our channels can always be enhanced, if necessary, with an indoor or outdoor antenna. Call your local Pappas station for tips on getting the best reception using an antenna.

2. Cable Television. Information about the cable television options in each community can be found by going to www.ncta.com.

3. Satellite Television. Other than DISH Network, satellite television can also be received from DirecTV. Information about DirecTV can be found by visiting www.directv.com.

In the Los Angeles and Houston markets, viewers have a fourth option: Broadband Internet Providers, such as Verizon and AT&T, which now also offer television services.

 

[jimborst]

That will cut off my CBS and Fox, somebody at Dish better do some dealing!

 

[samhevener]

It will end soon, they both need each other:hurah:

 

[Darkman]

i hope "Mammas" will still be OK, though.....

 

[jabeggle]

Crap i'm gonna be out my ABC and FOX. I just called DISH to rant a little and they didn't seem to worried that I pay for the Dish HD platinum package and NHL centerice and that I was threating leaving. Oh well thus is the life of a Dish subscriber. :nono2:

 

[scottchez]

Ouch
no FOX for CW in Omaha.

I better get something off my Bill for the missing channels.

 

[Mark Holtz]

Harry J. Pappas, Chairman and CEO of Pappas Telecasting Companies, said, "It may surprise our DISH viewers to know that, while DISH is charging them $5.99 per month just for their free local broadcast stations like the ones owned or operated by our company, DISH is unwilling to pay even a modest price - less than 19 cents out of the $6 per month they charge their customers - to the local stations that must spend millions of dollars to buy - or to produce - this programming. Our stations' ratings demonstrate that our programming is of high value to our loyal viewers. We encourage those viewers to contact EchoStar in order to make sure that their opinions are heard loud and clear."

Boo hoo hoo.... how did the local stations survive before the carriage agreements?

And, someone probably doesn't know that it costs money to get the signal back to the uplink center.

 

[joblo]

http://www.kpth.com/news/4770551.html:
Harry J. Pappas, Chairman and CEO of Pappas Telecasting Companies, said, "It may surprise our DISH viewers to know that, while DISH is charging them $5.99 per month just for their free local broadcast stations like the ones owned or operated by our company, DISH is unwilling to pay even a modest price - less than 19 cents out of the $6 per month they charge their customers - to the local stations that must spend millions of dollars to buy - or to produce - this programming.

The DNS royalty is only 20 cents. So, in other words, Pappas would have subscribers pay essentially same amount for the so-called "free" television they are "serving", as "unserved" subs pay to the rights holders for service in areas where no station has paid for broadcast rights and presumably no local advertiser is sponsoring the programming.

Someone tell me again, why do we need local ad supported television "service"?

 

[juan ellitinez]

The DNS royalty is only 20 cents. So, in other words, Pappas would have subscribers pay essentially same amount for the so-called "free" television they are "serving", as "unserved" subs pay to the rights holders for service in areas where no station has paid for broadcast rights and presumably no local advertiser is sponsoring the programming.

Someone tell me again, why do we need local ad supported television "service"?

Because the NAB told (paid) congress to mandate it !!! :lol:

 

[UTFAN]

Pappas has a horrible reputation in the broadcasting industry, understaffed, poor morale and a rep for squeezing a penny out of rocks.

Very similar to Young Broadcasting.

Good for DISH.

 

[DoyleS]

I would guess that losing Ch 42 serving Sacramento and the Bay Area will hardly be noticed.

..Doyle

 

[Michael P]

In the Los Angeles and Houston markets, viewers have a fourth option: Broadband Internet Providers, such as Verizon and AT&T, which now also offer television services.

AT&T's television signals come from E* not broadband.

 

[Blitz68]

Crap i'm gonna be out my ABC and FOX. I just called DISH to rant a little and they didn't seem to worried that I pay for the Dish HD platinum package and NHL centerice and that I was threating leaving. Oh well thus is the life of a Dish subscriber. :nono2:

Come to DirecTV

 

[jimborst]

Pappas has a horrible reputation in the broadcasting industry, understaffed, poor morale and a rep for squeezing a penny out of rock.

I have emailed KMEG engineering department twice and never gotten a reply. I have telephoned the engineering department about them going to a full power digital signal so I could get KMEG (Sioux City) in HD, the first time (in August) I was told should be up in two weeks, the last time (about 6 weeks ago) was told in the next month.

Since I can't get them over the air and they'll be off Dish, I'll no longer have CBS!

 

[SaltiDawg]

AT&T's television signals come from E* not broadband.

Are they not delivered (to the viewer) by broadband?

 

[jimborst]

I just tried, stress TRIED, to talk to a Dish csr about this. Talk about clueless, "Sir you will not lose your locals as of Dec. 1", me "but Dish has not reached a contract to carry KMEG", csr "Sir you will not lose your locals, you will lose NY and LA NBC, ABC and Fox, but your locals will remain on Dish". After trying to explain the situation many times, I just gave up. I was wondering (I know no chance since the distants are going away) if I could get the significantly viewed CBS from Sioux Falls, since I was losing KMEG, but since I couldn't even get that far with the CSR, I just gave up.

 

[Richard King]

Looking at the list I would favor the abolishment of ownership of more than one station in any given DMA (again). Ah, the good old days.

 

[TNGTony]

And 7 total to ensure diversity in editorial POV!

I am all for the 7-7-7 rule to return

See ya
Tony

 

[Paul Secic]

Its fine with me, can't understand Channel 8231 KTNC TV 42 (Azteca) Concord.

 

[Paul Secic]

Pappas has a horrible reputation in the broadcasting industry, understaffed, poor morale and a rep for squeezing a penny out of rocks.

Very similar to Young Broadcasting.

Good for DISH.

YUCK TO Young Broadcasting! They ruined KRON.