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I really like D*, but I live in the Philadelphia area and Comcast Cable is really screwing people like me. They own the Flyers, 76ers and the Wachovia Center where home games are played. They also have a contract to do local Phillies games 6 days a week.

These Comcast $%*&&##s were losing cable customers to D* by the hundreds so they removed Comcast Philadelphia from D*.

As a result D* wants $11.00 a month for a Sports Package which will give me 1 channel, ESPNU, that I'm interested in, and a bunch of (hack, patoo) soccer crap.

I think DTV should give us Philly area fans a break and give us a better package. I'd take New England, New York or Mid-Atlantic CSN packages.

I knew the sports setup before I signed up but its getting close to football season and I'm starting to build up my hatin'-on list, especially the Cowboys, Giants, Redskins, and Notre Dame.
 

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I agree with you. I have the sports package for only two reasons, the Outdoor channel and espnu. I get really sick of seeing "You are not authorized....on the hundred and twenty fox (insert state) stations. It is really a big ripoff, and if you read the webpage touting the sports package, it makes it seem as if you will get all those stations. That is what sucked me in in the first place. But apparently you have to have some sort of secret information ahead of time to figure out how misleading it is.
 

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oldengineer said:
I really like D*, but I live in the Philadelphia area and Comcast Cable is really screwing people like me. They own the Flyers, 76ers and the Wachovia Center where home games are played. They also have a contract to do local Phillies games 6 days a week.

These Comcast $%*&&##s were losing cable customers to D* by the hundreds so they removed Comcast Philadelphia from D*.

As a result D* wants $11.00 a month for a Sports Package which will give me 1 channel, ESPNU, that I'm interested in, and a bunch of (hack, patoo) soccer crap.

I think DTV should give us Philly area fans a break and give us a better package. I'd take New England, New York or Mid-Atlantic CSN packages.

I knew the sports setup before I signed up but its getting close to football season and I'm starting to build up my hatin'-on list, especially the Cowboys, Giants, Redskins, and Notre Dame.
Seems this type of CSN Phily thread pops up every couple of weeks.

For the hundredth time, CSN Phily was never on D* (so it was not taken away), however some of their HD feeds are included in the NHL CI and MLB EI packages. Maybe you are getting confused with Prism. D* can't give you another CSN feed due to contract issues since you are in Phily. There is no CSN NY channel..but there are ones from DC, New England, Bay Area, NW, and Chicago. I am west of Phily but since I don't like Phily sports teams, having D* isn't an issue.. I follow teams from other cities than Phily and have MLB EI and NHL CI. No problems.

CSN Phily is playing games within the law that Congress allows. Customers of other services, like D*, do get screwed, but D* can't do anything about it.
 

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n3ntj said:
Seems this type of CSN Phily thread pops up every couple of weeks.

For the hundredth time, CSN Phily was never on D* (so it was not taken away), however some of their HD feeds are included in the NHL CI and MLB EI packages. Maybe you are getting confused with Prism. D* can't give you another CSN feed due to contract issues since you are in Phily. There is no CSN NY channel..but there are ones from DC, New England, Bay Area, NW, and Chicago. I am west of Phily but since I don't like Phily sports teams, having D* isn't an issue.. I follow teams from other cities than Phily and have MLB EI and NHL CI. No problems.

CSN Phily is playing games within the law that Congress allows. Customers of other services, like D*, do get screwed, but D* can't do anything about it.
we had sports channel philadelphia til comcast took over cable in philly,it had 30-40 games a year for the phillies.it was nice getting sports from my home town then comcast screwed us
 

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SCPH (Sports Channel Philadelphia) was a different channel than Comcast Sports Philadelphia.

CSN didn't buyout SCPH, they started up a different channel.

You are right SC PHILLY was on DTV before it closed down.
 

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Oilfan said:
SCPH (Sports Channel Philadelphia) was a different channel than Comcast Sports Philadelphia.

CSN didn't buyout SCPH, they started up a different channel.

You are right SC PHILLY was on DTV before it closed down.
if they didnt buy them out then why did sports channel stop showing phiilies games in mid season when comcast took over?it was around june 1st or july 1st.they just werent out bid the following season.when one starts up and another stops in mid season thats about as close to buying out as it gets.
 

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Directv can't just give you sports channels from other regions. The games would be blacked out anyway. Blackouts are determined by the teams' home territory which is dictated by the league, not Directv.
 

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rfrogers1 said:
we had sports channel philadelphia til comcast took over cable in philly,it had 30-40 games a year for the phillies.it was nice getting sports from my home town then comcast screwed us
You're talking about 2 different channels. Everything changed when CSN Phily started.
 

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rfrogers1 said:
if they didnt buy them out then why did sports channel stop showing phiilies games in mid season when comcast took over?it was around june 1st or july 1st.they just werent out bid the following season.when one starts up and another stops in mid season thats about as close to buying out as it gets.
CSN Philly bought Phillies rights. Prior to that games aired both on PRISM and on SCPHIL. Oh I am sure it was a calculated move by Comcast. Comcast Philly really is a later form of a station called PRISM.

PS CSN Philly debuted OCTOBER 1, 1997.
 

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My suggestion for you guys in philly with D* that want to recieve out of market games or even for that matter your Philly teams is to "move" your tv watching address. That way you can recieve your philly games via which ever sports package and recieve the games of that city area you "moved" to.
 

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oldengineer,
I suggest you vote against Arlen Spector when he runs.

We in Philly are the ony ones in the US with this restriction. A bill to eliminate the loophole was about to be submitted, but Arlen stopped it.
 

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We need to contact our other representatives in Congress, such as Sen. Casey and your local Rep from the House and ask that this issue be addressed. Sen. Specter isn't going to address this due to how much Comcrap donates to him.
 

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wilbur_the_goose said:
oldengineer,
I suggest you vote against Arlen Spector when he runs.

We in Philly are the ony ones in the US with this restriction. A bill to eliminate the loophole was about to be submitted, but Arlen stopped it.
I'm definitely adding him to my hatin'-on list. I'm ashamed to say I have voted for this loser 3 times.
 

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There is no CSN NY channel..but there are ones from DC, New England, Bay Area, NW, and Chicago.
Actually there IS one in NYC. Allthough not named Comcast Sportsnet, Sports Channel NY is owned and operated by Comcast.....aka an affiliate.

Philly has been hosed for years on this issue and Comcast will try at all costs to keep them off satelite. Even though ALL their other networks are up on Satelite today. With 2 exceptions: Comcast Sports Northwest(someone correct me if I'm wrong) and Comcast Sports Southeast (they too revel in the fact that they are 'cable' exclusive').
 

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shadough said:
Actually there IS one in NYC. Allthough not named Comcast Sportsnet, Sports Channel NY is owned and operated by Comcast.....aka an affiliate.
SportsNet New York is jointly owned by Comcast and the Mets.
 

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rkunces said:
My suggestion for you guys in philly with D* that want to recieve out of market games or even for that matter your Philly teams is to "move" your tv watching address. That way you can recieve your philly games via which ever sports package and recieve the games of that city area you "moved" to.
How easy is it to "move"? Wouldn't that affect local channels if that was the case?
 

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As much as I dislike Sen. Specter (I wanted to vote 'not proved' in the last election), to claim that this is all his fault is a little short-sighted. First off, the FCC entered negotiations between DirecTV and Comcast about the terrestrial loophole. The FCC agreed to keep the loophole open IF Comcast allowed DirecTV to get access to CSN DC. DirecTV DID agree to that deal. Not saying that politics played no role in this - it very much did (I have a co-worker who is waiting for fios internet to roll into Philly - I told him that Philly would get FiOS right after Mars did), and there's no doubt in my mind that Sen. Specter provided influence on the deal. However, DirecTV wasn't required to accept that deal. They could have pushed further for the elimination of the loophole, but didn't.
 

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How easy is it to "move"? Wouldn't that affect local channels if that was the case?
Only the ones that are on spotbeam. To "move" you just need an address in the area as your "viewing" address while your billing address remains the same. I heard guys simply use warehouse addresses, adding an extra number to the building or apartment. Other's use family addresses or friends.
 

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As much as I dislike Sen. Specter (I wanted to vote 'not proved' in the last election), to claim that this is all his fault is a little short-sighted. First off, the FCC entered negotiations between DirecTV and Comcast about the terrestrial loophole. The FCC agreed to keep the loophole open IF Comcast allowed DirecTV to get access to CSN DC. DirecTV DID agree to that deal. Not saying that politics played no role in this - it very much did (I have a co-worker who is waiting for fios internet to roll into Philly - I told him that Philly would get FiOS right after Mars did), and there's no doubt in my mind that Sen. Specter provided influence on the deal. However, DirecTV wasn't required to accept that deal. They could have pushed further for the elimination of the loophole, but didn't.
Well, I would view that as DirecTV taking what they can get and tackle CSN Philly at a later time. :D

Specter gets so much money from Comcast he will do whatever they say in terms of protecting their Philly home market.
 
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