Too bad. That's probably a deal breaker for me, as I edit out ads and transfer programs to my tablet for viewing during work breaks.P Smith said:For sure - no offloading programs to PC; it's red color for the 'bull'.
I would say: dish PR should hire you or just pay for the post.vwhizbang said:I have read all the post in this forum and would like to state what appears obvious. Everybody always wants more and no product is going to address all needs and wishes.
To me the big deal here is that the Hopper is able deliver HD over coax at a reasonable price. Everything I saw in the past was expensive and in most cases only available to one remote TV without a daisy chain arrangement which most home distribution systems won't support.
The second big advantage appears to be the ability to tune up to 4 HD TVs to different channels. Not a big deal to me, but a definite upgrade for families.
It appears at this point that the 6 channel recording is only available if you record the 4 major networks on one tuner and use the other 2 tuners for everything else, I guess time will tell what the details are on this point. This is an ok arrangement if you watch a lot of Network TV, which I don't, maybe 4 hours a week at the most. So then you have 3 tuners which matches what I have now with my 722k and 612, except that I can't stream from both receivers to my 3 TVs. So we are back to the major advantage being home HD distribution from one receiver. And to me that is a pretty big deal because, as it is I can only get HD TV in multiple rooms by using multiple receivers and in some cases multiple dishes.
Bottom line is the Hopper won't do everything but what it will do was not possible before and some of what was possible was not very elegant.
I will get a new roll of black electrical tape to solve the stupid logo problem. It worked well on the stupid blue backlit HDTV logos on the current line of receivers.
We may soon be able to load programs to iPad and Android tablets, but don't expec to be able to pre-purge commercials. See the Sling Booth portion of http://www.dishuser.org/ces2012.php.elgibby said:Too bad. That's probably a deal breaker for me, as I edit out ads and transfer programs to my tablet for viewing during work breaks.
While 4 TVs can view HD programming, only 3 tuners are available, and any of those could be recording. When a TV can't get a tuner, it can watch what one of the others is watching, or watch something already recorded.vwhizbang said:The second big advantage appears to be the ability to tune up to 4 HD TVs to different channels. Not a big deal to me, but a definite upgrade for families.
Your current receivers have 4 tuners, with the 612 adding an OTA tuner and the 722k optionally having 2 more for OTA channels both major and minor. Agreed on the limitations of outputs and sharing.So then you have 3 tuners which matches what I have now with my 722k and 612, ...
So here is a question. I heard it stated that you can watch Prime Time programming while it is recording. Does this use a separate tuner or the Tuner that is recording the Prime Time lineup? If it uses the same tuner then in theory 4 TVs could be watching different Prime Time Channels while the other 2 tuners were recording something else. I don't think I could make a definitive statement about this yet but it seems possible from what I have heard so far.BobaBird said:While 4 TVs can view HD programming, only 3 tuners are available, and any of those could be recording. When a TV can't get a tuner, it can watch what one of the others is watching, or watch something already recorded.
I'n not sure how the local stations are with this, but one key point is that the customer himself has to turn the PTAT on. It is not an automatic thing that DISH is doing. The customer only has to set the switch once, but it does require action on the part of the user. I think that this action makes it similar to recording any other show, and this has been accepted and is legal.n-spring said:Since PTAT records the entire transponder in order to capture the four major networks, does it record distant networks in order to achieve this? If so, how are the local broadcast stations letting them get away with this, or do they not care?