[cjr3]

I have an AU9-S Dish. The 4 lines from the dish run inside the house and connect to a Zinwell WB68 multiswitch. I have five (5) D11-100C-R standard receivers and one (1) HR-21 HD receiver.

I only have one coax line that runs from the WB68 to the HR-21. We couldn't fish a second coax line to where the HR-21 is located. The installer told me to call DirecTV to get the SWM-8 (swim switch) in order to get the full benefits of the HD DVR service. Right now I can only record the show that I am watching.

I called DirecTV and 1 1/2 hours later, 5 CSRs, and twice as many promises to correct my problem, I still don't have a SWM-8. I was finally told that DirecTV can't order the SWM-8 and that has to be handled by the local DirecTV contractor.

At this point, I'm just fed up. The installer told me the SWM-8 would plug into the wall where the one coax line feeds the HR-21. At that point, the SWM-8 would split the signal and two lines would feed the HR-21. After doing some research, it seems like the SWM-8 needs to have the 4 lines from the dish feeding it.

Can someone provide guidance as to the proper configuration for this situation?
Doesn't the HR-21 need two coax lines feeding it for the HD DVR? If so, what splitter is recommended?

Thanks in advance!

 

[veryoldschool]

Welcome.
The SWM8 does need four inputs, but the HR21 only needs one [SAT #1] since it will "split" it inside the DVR.
Sounds like you'll need to split the four feeds from the dish and feed both your WB68 and a SWM8. This will let you keep your D11s running off the WB68 and then get both tuners working on your HR21 off the SWM8. As you upgrade your D11s to newer receivers, they can move over to the SWM.

 

[houskamp]

I have an AU9-S Dish. The 4 lines from the dish run inside the house and connect to a Zinwell WB68 multiswitch. I have five (5) D11-100C-R standard receivers and one (1) HR-21 HD receiver.

I only have one coax line that runs from the WB68 to the HR-21. We couldn't fish a second coax line to where the HR-21 is located. The installer told me to call DirecTV to get the SWM-8 (swim switch) in order to get the full benefits of the HD DVR service. Right now I can only record the show that I am watching.

I called DirecTV and 1 1/2 hours later, 5 CSRs, and twice as many promises to correct my problem, I still don't have a SWM-8. I was finally told that DirecTV can't order the SWM-8 and that has to be handled by the local DirecTV contractor.

At this point, I'm just fed up. The installer told me the SWM-8 would plug into the wall where the one coax line feeds the HR-21. At that point, the SWM-8 would split the signal and two lines would feed the HR-21. After doing some research, it seems like the SWM-8 needs to have the 4 lines from the dish feeding it.

Can someone provide guidance as to the proper configuration for this situation?
Doesn't the HR-21 need two coax lines feeding it for the HD DVR? If so, what splitter is recommended?

Thanks in advance!

best bet on connections would be 4 lines from dish feeding 4 splitters... then each splitter will goto one input on your wb68 and the matching input on a smw8.. then the swm8 goes to the power inserter then to sat1 input on your hr21.. this will get both tunners working on your hr21 (no need for splitter with swm).. you will also have the capability to add recievers at that location too..

 

[gulfwarvet]

you can purchase 1 from solidsignal.com or contact a member here named Dave29.
the SWM-8 would replace you WB68 muiltiswitch. so the SWM 8 would have the 4 lines coming off the Dish. then you have 2 ports labeled SWM 1 & SWM 2, and you'll would find 3 Legacy ports and 1 OTA port.

now heres the tricky part. your D11's would only work off of the Legancy ports. so that would only allow you 3 recievers (D11's) of that model to function on the SWM-8. they would need to be upgraded to a D12.

for the HR21 you would connect it to etheir the SWM 1 or the SWM port. yes, when connected to ethier port you'll only need 1 coax for it to run with two tuners. thus allowing you to record 2 shows.

now for a solution for you other D11's (if you can't upgrade to the D12's). you could do a setup on running the WB68 pararell with the SWM-8. how to this is by splitting the 4 feeds coming off the Dish with dual power passing splitters. 1 leg would go the input port(s) on the SWM-8 and the other to the input ports of the WB68 muiltswitch.

now you can run your coax for the 2 remaining D11's of the WB68 and the rest off the SWM-8. which would add full function to your setup.

 

[cjr3]

Thanks for the feedback!

Can anyone provide a manufacturer/model for the dual power passing splitters? I want to make sure to get the right equipment.

 

[Igor]

The dual power passing spliter is not needed. A single power passing works, the power passing port should be connected to SWM-8 because it is a powered switch (easier on D11s...).

you can purchase 1 from solidsignal.com or contact a member here named Dave29.
the SWM-8 would replace you WB68 muiltiswitch. so the SWM 8 would have the 4 lines coming off the Dish. then you have 2 ports labeled SWM 1 & SWM 2, and you'll would find 3 Legacy ports and 1 OTA port.

now heres the tricky part. your D11's would only work off of the Legancy ports. so that would only allow you 3 recievers (D11's) of that model to function on the SWM-8. they would need to be upgraded to a D12.

for the HR21 you would connect it to etheir the SWM 1 or the SWM port. yes, when connected to ethier port you'll only need 1 coax for it to run with two tuners. thus allowing you to record 2 shows.

now for a solution for you other D11's (if you can't upgrade to the D12's). you could do a setup on running the WB68 pararell with the SWM-8. how to this is by splitting the 4 feeds coming off the Dish with dual power passing splitters. 1 leg would go the input port(s) on the SWM-8 and the other to the input ports of the WB68 muiltswitch.

now you can run your coax for the 2 remaining D11's of the WB68 and the rest off the SWM-8. which would add full function to your setup.

 

[gulfwarvet]

Thanks for the feedback!

Can anyone provide a manufacturer/model for the dual power passing splitters? I want to make sure to get the right equipment.

Theres a lot of different Manufacturers out there, but heres one you can check out.
http://www.summitsource.com/2-ghz-2...0-mhz-part-channel-master-2212ifd-p-7104.html

 

[gulfwarvet]

The dual power passing spliter is not needed. A single power passing works, the power passing port should be connected to SWM-8 because it is a powered switch (easier on D11s...).

hum, are you thinking of the splitter being put after the SWM-8? the setup i discribe is having them before the SWM-8, thus you should need a dual power passing splitter. i have been running this setup for well over a year and never had a issue with anything coming off the WB68 (as many others has to).

 

[veryoldschool]

hum, are you thinking of the splitter being put after the SWM-8? the setup i discribe is having them before the SWM-8, thus you should need a dual power passing splitter. i have been running this setup for well over a year and never had a issue with anything coming off the WB68 (as many others has to).

Single power passing splitters will work fine before the WB68 and SWM8 [with the passing side on the SWM8] as the SWM is powered and the WB68 isn't. Dual power passing is for two WB68.

 

[Igor]

hum, are you thinking of the splitter being put after the SWM-8? the setup i discribe is having them before the SWM-8, thus you should need a dual power passing splitter. i have been running this setup for well over a year and never had a issue with anything coming off the WB68 (as many others has to).

The dual power passing splitter works but it is not needed. Only one of the switches will power the antenna (the one outputing higher voltage). Because the WB68 is not powered, the basic boxes have to supply power to switch and antenna. I rather have the SWM power inserter supplying the SWM power plus antenna power and reduce the stress on the box power supply.

It is quite possible that your SWM is already providing most of the power to the antenna. We are both right, dual power passing splitter can be used and single power passing splitter can be used. The spliter location is the same in both cases.

 

[gulfwarvet]

Single power passing splitters will work fine before the WB68 and SWM8 [with the passing side on the SWM8] as the SWM is powered and the WB68 isn't. Dual power passing is for two WB68.

Ok, Note has been taken.

 

[gulfwarvet]

The dual power passing splitter works but it is not needed. Only one of the switches will power the antenna (the one outputing higher voltage). Because the WB68 is not powered, the basic boxes have to supply power to switch and antenna. I rather have the SWM power inserter supplying the SWM power plus antenna power and reduce the stress on the box power supply.

It is quite possible that your SWM is already providing most of the power to the antenna. We are both right, dual power passing splitter can be used and single power passing splitter can be used. The spliter location is the same in both cases.

no harm, no foul

 

[bobnielsen]

How about running 4 of the WB68 outputs to the SWM8, 4 to 4 of the D11s, connecting the other D11 to one of the legacy ports of the SWM8 and the single coax to the HR21 going to the SWM1 port (with the PI located at the HR21). No need for any splitters that way. The SWM8 will provide power to the dish.

 

[bakers12]

You can get the SWM-8 from Solid Signal for $149, shipping included. I like bobnielsen's suggestion to feed the SWM-8 off the WB68 because it doesn't need splitters. You can add them later if you want to expand.

Is this the sort of wiring job you are comfortable with? A decent compression tool and cable stripper will cost at least $50. Of course, that's a lot less than what you would have to pay someone else.

Since your receivers are all working, I don't think you can expect much help from DirecTV.

 

[cjr3]

Yes. I feel pretty comfortable with it. I have the compression tool and cable stripper and about 50' of coax. I will make sure (in my next house) that the coax lines are run differently.