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I have one of the original AT9's (about 2 years old). I've been able fine tune 99c and 103c to around 84-90 with clear LOS. I've heard rumblings from many that the old AT9's don't get much better than that.

I do however have a brand new AU9 dish assemble (Andrew LNB) in the box and a separate AU9 WNC LNB and thought about having some fun to make a comparrison. What combination is known to work the best together?

Before anyone replies with "If it's not broke, don't fix it"... Yeah, I know... I'm an enginerd though and I like fun projects so please no flaming.
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I have an older CalAmp AU9 dish next to my newer WNC SlimLine. They're both optimally aligned and the AU9 reads about 5-10pts lower on the Ka-band transponders. No noticabled reception differences between the two dishes.
A little while back, K4SMX was collecting data involving slightly lower signal strength readings for the west coast, on sat 103c, and dish type. He, and many others swear by the WNC slinline.
On the old "sidecar" dishes, new slimline LNB's practically don't work. If you're talking about sidecar lnb's from what I remember the 110-119 assembly's weren't very interchangeable with different brands. Granted I haven't put one of those together since the slimlines came out.

Now if you're talking about having a slimline dish, with a WNC LNB (white plastic instead of clear plastic over the LNB "eyes"), I would use that. They generally read about 5-8% higher than the zinwell, eagle aspen, and andrews lnbs. Especially on the Ka band satellites.
veryoldschool said:
Gee, I wonder..... hummmm :lol:
hahahahahahaha
Actually, someone here did post a comparison of the Eagle Aspen, the Andrew, and the WNC Slimline LNB's a while back, and the WNC was not the "hottest" one. They were all pretty close, though. I think the conclusion about the CA situation was that the D10 signals in CA were comparable to everywhere else, it was just that the installations there were mostly all Calamps - a lot of AT-9's and quite a few Slimlines as well. At the time, most of the other LNB's reporting were WNC's, and it was pretty clear that the WNC's were easily running 5-10 pts higher and sometimes more.

There are also different versions of the WNC LNB. I've used a Ver. 1, 1C, and 1D, and I can't tell any noticeable difference between them, signal strength-wise, but I haven't done any serious comparison. There's probably something on the internet somewhere that documents these revisions, but it's probably in Chinese. :)
Radio Enginerd said:
I have one of the original AT9's (about 2 years old). I've been able fine tune 99c and 103c to around 84-90 with clear LOS. I've heard rumblings from many that the old AT9's don't get much better than that.
Please post back with your findings if you replace your AT9 with one of the AU9 combos. I have an AT9 pole mounted outside and a nice fresh WNC AU9 in the box. I was just sort of hanging onto the AU9 as a spare, but I may put it up if it gets better signal. I wouldn't have to change the pole, either, right? I think they're both 2" OD.
Dirac said:
Please post back with your findings if you replace your AT9 with one of the AU9 combos. I have an AT9 pole mounted outside and a nice fresh WNC AU9 in the box. I was just sort of hanging onto the AU9 as a spare, but I may put it up if it gets better signal. I wouldn't have to change the pole, either, right? I think they're both 2" OD.
If it is not broke...

The AU slimline is the replacement for defects in the AT sidecar. It is just easier to swap when the rare defect hits. Both tune on the 101 instead of the 110. I understand there is yet another series of dishes coming along.....a SWM dish.(Single Wire Multiswitch built into the LNB) and another that just hits the 99 101 & 103.

I would hold off until something breaks.......2" OD mast for either, same wires.

Joe
I bet that you have the "urge" to customize most everything that interests you.

I know that urge well. !devil12: shoulder :angel:
I already pulled my sidecar off... the connections crumbled away when I did so, so that was a one-way operation. The sidecar plastic had pretty much completely turned light beige from its original grey (the 99/101/103 LNB plastic housing didn't do this).

I am planning to run it like this as long as I get guide data OK without seeing the 119 sat (seems to be some mixed info on whether or not that's possible for extended periods). If this ends up not working long term, I'll either put up my SlimLine5 or eliminate rain fade altogether and go with the AK/HI setup. So far I'm still getting high 80s and low 90s on the Ka sats, and rain fade is not common but still occurs to some degree in almost all passing thunderstorms (since this is Florida, that's more often than I'd like).

Come to think of it, though, rain fade was worse on the locals, and they were coming from 119 and the bum sidecar. I'll have to pay attention the next time weather comes through, and see how "broke" it is before I decide to "fix it". ;)
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techrep said:
I bet that you have the "urge" to customize most everything that interests you.
Not positive you were addressing me specifically, but I know that fits... and my wife loves it! :sure:
joe diamond said:
If it is not broke...

The AU slimline is the replacement for defects in the AT sidecar. It is just easier to swap when the rare defect hits. Both tune on the 101 instead of the 110. I understand there is yet another series of dishes coming along.....a SWM dish.(Single Wire Multiswitch built into the LNB) and another that just hits the 99 101 & 103.

I would hold off until something breaks.......2" OD mast for either, same wires.

Joe
The SWMline 5 LNB will be available nationwide shortly. Ditto for the SL3 LNB (99/101/103). No ETA for the SWM version of the SL3.
Dirac said:
Please post back with your findings if you replace your AT9 with one of the AU9 combos. I have an AT9 pole mounted outside and a nice fresh WNC AU9 in the box. I was just sort of hanging onto the AU9 as a spare, but I may put it up if it gets better signal. I wouldn't have to change the pole, either, right? I think they're both 2" OD.
Thanks to VOS :) I have an AU9 spare but I'm tempted to put it into service since it's a better looking dish IMO. :)

I didn't get a bug up my butt to do it this past weekend so it will probably wait.
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