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Quick ? - "record up to 6 HD channels at once"?

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I currently have 2x 722's servicing 3 HDTVs and am looking at upgrading to a Hopper and 2 Joeys. But...I read Satellite Guys' review of the Hopper and he says that the Hopper only has 3 tuners.

Yet the Dish page itself says "Record up to 6 HD Channels at Once with PrimeTime Anytime".

So somebody explain it to me - are there only 3 tuners in the box, or are there 6? We thrash all four tuners on my existing 722s quite often in my household (my kids are constantly recording Phineus and Ferb marathons or something while we're recording stuff like Leverage, Jusified, Archer, etc) and trying to shoehorn down into 3 tuners would be a bit irritating.

Other than that, I'm psyched - I'll apparently be able to turn in my two 722s and get a Hopper and 2 Joeys for a $100 equipment/installation outlay and an extra buck a month on my bill...and stop having to pull what's left of my hair out because the last firmware upgrade in December totally hosed my SlingAdapters on my 722s so they can't sling recorded shows to my 3rd HDTV anymore (just stream live TV).
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The new hopper has 3 tuners. During prime time, it can record the big 4 HD broadcast channels on one of them, effectively giving you 6 tuner performance at that time IF you record the broadcast channels.
wait for reports how sling adapter will works with the h2k, no one test it yet

as the "6 channels" ... it was clearly seen from initial official statement, it will confuse ppl as a hell - so what we have now.

Time to create a FAQ. Anyone ? Stuart ? James ? Mark ?
lparsons21 said:
The new hopper has 3 tuners. During prime time, it can record the big 4 HD broadcast channels on one of them, effectively giving you 6 tuner performance at that time IF you record the broadcast channels.
How the heck can it record 4 HD channels on a single tuner at once? What's so special about the big 4 - are they compressing them/multiplexing them into a single channel from the satellite or something and then decompressing/demultiplexing them in the Hopper? What does that do to picture quality?

As for my SlingAdapters, the only reason I got 'em on my existing DVRs was to get the content to my 3rd HDTV without having to get a 3rd DVR; I don't use it for slung-over-internet access to my shows because I've got a lousy 384kbps upstream DSL connection at home (a drawback to living out in the boonies). I probably wouldn't bother to hook one of 'em up to the Hopper at all...ok, I might in order to sling content to a PC elsewhere in my house, maybe...
The big 4 in most areas in HD are all on one transponder. So instead of recording the channel, they use one tuner to record the complete transponder and seperate out the channels internally in the Hopper. Pretty darned slick if you ask me! :)

So far the reports I've seen indicate the video is slightly better with the Hopper/Joey than with previous models. I tend to think that is wishful thinking, but it indicates the video quality isn't degraded.
P Smith said:
wait for reports how sling adapter will works with the h2k, no one test it yet
So far so good on mine. What do you want to know?
The PTA/PTAT question is already in the FAQ. http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=174583
P Smith said:
Time to create a FAQ. Anyone ? Stuart ? James ? Mark ?
We have a FAQ linked in the post above mine... it is a work in progress, kind of waiting to have more people with in-home experiences to nail down more actual FAQs... but this is one of the very questions addressed in that FAQ.
Is there a way to have it sticky across forums?
Stewart Vernon said:
We have a FAQ linked in the post above mine... it is a work in progress, kind of waiting to have more people with in-home experiences to nail down more actual FAQs... but this is one of the very questions addressed in that FAQ.
Umm, "H/J FAQ", what would be sticky here, in this forum.
mdavej said:
So far so good on mine. What do you want to know?
Drive partitioning scheme, please.
MOCA signal screen.
P Smith said:
Umm, "H/J FAQ", what would be sticky here, in this forum.
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=201721 under construction ... :)
P Smith said:
Drive partitioning scheme, please.
MOCA signal screen.
PTAT is enabled, that's all I know. I have no Joey's, so no MOCA. What does any of that have to do with sling?
Nothing.

So, why not ask you, new user of the wonderful box something what will be interesting to know ?
P Smith said:
Nothing.

So, why not ask you, new user of the wonderful box something what will be interesting to know ?
What would one see on a signal level screen unless there was another MOCA device on the system? Transmitted signal level?
PrimeTime Anytime is explained at http://www.dishuser.org/ptat.php.
phrelin said:
(from Installation Experiences thread)

Would someone who has a unit working confirm that one easily can save PTAT recorded shows onto the user hard drive space with extra time at the beginning and end effectively giving you complete copies of all those shows that don't follow the on-the-hour scheduling system - like many ABC shows that actually run from 9:00 to 10:02.
That's one of the questions I'd like answered to complete the EKB page, and Dish PR has been unresponsive. Would someone save the 9:00 show, and then save the 10:00 show (or any show and the one immediately following on the same channel)? I expect the 9:00 save will have 3 minutes late into the 10:00 show, but does the 10:00 show also have the 1 early at the end of the 9:00 show? There should be a few minutes that appear both at the end of the first and beginning of the second.
James Long said:
What would one see on a signal level screen unless there was another MOCA device on the system? Transmitted signal level?
Yes, that would base measure - when no load.
Fundamental point in a science of measures and troubleshooting.
Well, it's for technicians and engineer, perhaps for person with curious minds ...
BobaBird said:
That's one of the questions I'd like answered to complete the EKB page, and Dish PR has been unresponsive. Would someone save the 9:00 show, and then save the 10:00 show (or any show and the one immediately following on the same channel)? I expect the 9:00 save will have 3 minutes late into the 10:00 show, but does the 10:00 show also have the 1 early at the end of the 9:00 show? There should be a few minutes that appear both at the end of the first and beginning of the second.
I can confirm that start early / end late is preserved on all programs, even overlapping ones when viewed or saved. So as in your example the last few minutes of program 1 is repeated in the first few minutes of program 2.
Thank you!
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