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I see that the "Remote is in TV mode" is a feature, not a bug. Any news on removing this stupid, stupid feature? At least for the Power button, which is clearly a button to be used for non-DVR devices.

And also, my TV+SAT macro power buttons do not work. Do they need to be turned on somehow? Mits 27" SDTV, which does work otherwise, the normal power button works.
 

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HR21-100, x255

I see that the "Remote is in TV mode" is a feature, not a bug. Any news on removing this stupid, stupid feature? At least for the Power button, which is clearly a button to be used for non-DVR devices.

And also, my TV+SAT macro power buttons do not work. Do they need to be turned on somehow? Mits 27" SDTV, which does work otherwise, the normal power button works.
You have to set the remote up for the TV. I'm assuming you did not do that, is that correct? If it is, go to your "info" button and hold it down. That will bring you to the System Setup page. Go to "Remote" and follow the instructions for setting up the remote to recognize your TV. Have a sound system? You can set up the mote for that too.

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Spiky said:
HR21-100, x255

I see that the "Remote is in TV mode" is a feature, not a bug. Any news on removing this stupid, stupid feature? At least for the Power button, which is clearly a button to be used for non-DVR devices.
You wouldn't get that message if stopped pressing SAT keys in the tv device, and no this feature can't be removed.

And also, my TV+SAT macro power buttons do not work. Do they need to be turned on somehow? Mits 27" SDTV, which does work otherwise, the normal power button works.
Its upto the code you use, and if tv model accepts the discrete commands mapped to the TV ON & OFF keys. This isn't feature that can be turned on or off with single code.
 

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You have to set the remote up for the TV. I'm assuming you did not do that, is that correct? If it is, go to your "info" button and hold it down. That will bring you to the System Setup page. Go to "Remote" and follow the instructions for setting up the remote to recognize your TV. Have a sound system? You can set up the mote for that too.

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Well, see, if I hadn't done that, nothing would work.

No, my problem is just the macro buttons. I will try a different code per Edmund to see if that is more compatible.

I don't use this remote in my theater, I have a better remote that handles my real system. It is just used at the 2nd TV that my HR21 feeds in another room.

Edmund,
I HATE when companies dumb things down for idiots. The Power button should not be considered a SAT button if the slide is in a different mode. It's a Power button. Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure other CE devices have these. In fact, the DVR is the only device I have that doesn't need it, since it doesn't actually turn it off. :rolleyes: I've been seeing this for a month, now, and every time I still can't believe they would do something so pandering.

Thanks for all the comments.
 

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There are TWO power buttons.

What you're seeing under the slider is for what the slider is set to.

There are "simple" "on" and [below] "off" buttons over to the right side of the slider that are what I use to turn both my receiver AND TV on/off with one pressing of "a button".
 

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Can someone explain the OP's post to me... I don't get it...
If you use your DirecTV remote for a TV, it doesn't instantly work all the TV functions. With everyting turned on, slide the switch to TV, then press Power, it gives a little message onscreen saying 'your remote is in TV mode', and doesn't actually turn the TV off. Apparently they think people are more likely to do this series of remote manipulations by mistake than intentionally. What's worse is that it does this when you need to turn ON the TV. So you press the Power button and nothing visible happens, really bad for the wife/grandparents. This message should die, I really can't believe they think people won't need to turn on the TV. And, AFAICT, it is based in the remote, not the DVR itself. So I suppose my workaround is to get a universal for that room. I have a different problem with that solution, called "small children".

My other point is about the 2 buttons at the top that are supposed to turn On and Off both the TV and DVR with one press. They have not worked for me, so I need to fiddle.
 

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Yeah, just not on the first button press.
Well, with mine set up for my TV, it is.
Slider in which ever position for one of my three DirecTV receivers, I'm using, one press of "on" turns both on and one press of "off" turn both off.
I have the DirecTV receivers set to RF and I point the remote to the TV since it's IR.

If they're not close enough, then with both in IR, you may not be in the IR field of view for both.
 

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If you are still having problems, try downloading the manual for the remote.

The manual contains many more codes per TV model that the on screen instructions.

If I remember right I found the manual for the RC64F by just doing a google search.

Of course, the better solution is to just buy something like the Harmony 880.
 

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Well, see, if I hadn't done that, nothing would work.
OK, I wasn't trying to make you angry. I know you are frustrated.

No, my problem is just the macro buttons.
What are the "macro buttons"?

I HATE when companies dumb things down for idiots.
It's common to "dumb things down". I teach at a college on occasions and I always have to get down to a level the students can understand. The worst teachers are the ones who try to teach at a level only they understand. For instance, Mickey Mantle wasn't a good coach because he couldn't understand why every ballplayer couldn't do the things he did so magnificently on the ball field.

I always ask for a simple answer and have asked people to "dumb down their responses" because I couldn't understand them. Note my question above concerning the "macro buttons". I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Don't know what you do for a living, but if we were working together and I sent you for an "LL" would you have any idea what I was talking about? Or would I have to "dumb down" my request?

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Don't worry, I'm not angry. Or even that frustrated. I totally agree on being clear for everyone in discussion or manuals. But I think DirecTV has gone too far on the remote usage. There's dumbing-down, and then there's dumbing-down.

I would probably get a Harmony next for this room. But my wonderful family has already trashed a nice specialized jp1 remote (ever seen what a parrot can do to a remote?) and lost an MX-500. Spending another $100 or more on a 3rd universal is probably going to take some sweet talk.

Oh, and by macro I mean the 2 power buttons that turn off 2 machines. Probably a poor way to say it.
 

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The buttons you mentioned do not work for me right now. i found the manual and will try to get them to work when I have a chance.
The manual is junk. But, it is better than nothing. The real help lies on this forum. If you have your remote set correctly, the "power" and "off" buttons on the right hand side of the mote will definitely turn off both the TV and the DVR. Try putting the mote in "RF" mode. Works better.

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Don't worry, I'm not angry. Or even that frustrated. I totally agree on being clear for everyone in discussion or manuals. But I think DirecTV has gone too far on the remote usage. There's dumbing-down, and then there's dumbing-down.

I would probably get a Harmony next for this room. But my wonderful family has already trashed a nice specialized jp1 remote (ever seen what a parrot can do to a remote?) and lost an MX-500. Spending another $100 or more on a 3rd universal is probably going to take some sweet talk.

Oh, and by macro I mean the 2 power buttons that turn off 2 machines. Probably a poor way to say it.
I was thinking of you this morning when I turned on the "power" switch on the right hand side of the mote and the TV and the wrong DVR came on. Picked up the correct mote and used the "PWR" button on the wrong DVR and the "PWR" button on the correct mote and switched inputs with the "TV input" button on the left side of the mote. Those "PWR" buttons are really handy when switching from DVR to DVR in the same room.

I've never been a fan of multi-device motes. Just my opinion, but I'd rather use the mote meant for the device. And no, I don't have a huge clutter of motes, they all live on a shelf of my coffee table in perfect Harmony. Pun intended.

Rich
 
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