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replacement boxes and extending contract

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Does this make sense (and do I have the story right)?

When you get a new/upgrade receiver like an HD DVR, you are required to extend your contract 24 months. It is their receiver that you lease after all. Got it.

But let's say their receiver that you lease craps out after a year and you need a replacement. You have two choices: Get a replacement unit and further extend your contract, or cancel and pay the penalty, or continue to pay but have no service due to a non-functioning unit. There is no option to get a replacement for the unit you agreed to lease and not extend your contract? They have no obligation to either provide you a no-strings functional box during the commitment term, or to let you out of contract for free?

I am aware of equipment protection but that is optional to cover a wider area of things.

How is that a resonable fair trade in terms of DirecTV keeping their end of the implied contract, which is (or at least should be IMO) to provide you with a functional box with no other strings over your commitment term?
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If you have the protection plan, they will send you a replacement and it will not extend your contract.

It seems to be a matter of debate around here as to whether or not your contract should be extended when receiving a replacement for a defective receiver after the initial 90 day warranty.
The official policy is suppose to be a free replacement receiver for just the cost of shipping with no PP and no extension but it seems to be messed up pretty commonly and result in extensions.
evan_s said:
The official policy is suppose to be a free replacement receiver for just the cost of shipping with no PP and no extension but it seems to be messed up pretty commonly and result in extensions.
"The last was" the DirecTV system would extend the commitment, but the emailed policy clearly says it shouldn't. Like several/many things about the DirecTV computer system, it would need to be manually "corrected".
While they may swap a defective leased receiver for $19.95 S&H, and while it has been reported here that it should not extend your commitment term, there is absolutely no official policy on this. There have been many reports here that CSR’s are requiring an in-home service call (for an $80 charge) to investigate the problem. I suppose there are certain symptoms that would definitely indicate a failed receiver (like smoke coming out of it or not powering up at all), but some could actually be problems with LNB’s, switches, cables, etc. The PP eliminates any questions about what you wil be charged.
tkrandall said:
Does this make sense (and do I have the story right)?

When you get a new/upgrade receiver like an HD DVR, you are required to extend your contract 24 months. It is their receiver that you lease after all. Got it.

But let's say their receiver that you lease craps out after a year and you need a replacement. You have two choices: Get a replacement unit and further extend your contract, or cancel and pay the penalty, or continue to pay but have no service due to a non-functioning unit. There is no option to get a replacement for the unit you agreed to lease and not extend your contract? They have no obligation to either provide you a no-strings functional box during the commitment term, or to let you out of contract for free?

I am aware of equipment protection but that is optional to cover a wider area of things.

How is that a resonable fair trade in terms of DirecTV keeping their end of the implied contract, which is (or at least should be IMO) to provide you with a functional box with no other strings over your commitment term?
DirecTV is full of crap. Their customer service absolutely sucks.
I upgraded to a HD reciever. The technician installed the reciever but left my old dish in place. The old dish has been in place for years. I was supposed to get the new model dish but he said he didn't have any with him and left me with the impression that someone would come and replace the old dish. That never happened. After a few months, my HD channels would not come in. Soon, most of my channels would not come in. That, coupled with frequent rain in NY left me with not much TV. I called customer service for help and got the usual noise about resetting the reciever and pulling the plugs. After a while, that wouldn't work either. I called customer service again and scheduled an appointment for a month later, which was the earliest they had. The appointment date I was given coincided with a date I would be out of town. I expressed as much to the person I spoke with but she insisted that was the only date she had. She said I should call my local service provider in case someone canceled their appointment. I did that and they had nothing. Last weekend my service went out all together. I basically have not had TV for about 2 months. I called DirecTV yesterday to get a credit and the rep offered me $10 on my monthly $110 bill. I asked to speak to a manager. The manager offered $78, claiming that even though I can't get anyone to my home to fix their crap, the "service" charge could not be removed. I told her that their customer service was terrible and that I would be terminating my contract soon and she said that it would cost me $300 even though I get no service and in addition, they would rescind the credit. Later that day, I noticed that that the bolts holding the dish in place on the mounting bracket had rusted and broken. The dish was in danger of falling. I live in an apartment building on the 10th floor. If the dish fell off and hit someone, it would kill them. I called DirecTV again and was told that I would given another appointment, which would be AFTER my present appointment, which I had to wait a month for. Obviously, this is an emergency situation and needs to be dealt with immediately. I expressed as much and was given the number to my local service provider again. I called them and this idiot told me he could he couldn't do anything and that I should fix it myself or hire someone to secure my dish or remove it until my scheduled appointment. I cursed that dumb phuck out. I called back to suspend my "service" and will be terminating it soon to go to another company which offers $150 towards the temination of existing contracts.
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I think you'd better forget your TV problem for now and do something to keep that dish from falling, even if you have to remove it.
veryoldschool said:
"The last was" the DirecTV system would extend the commitment, but the emailed policy clearly says it shouldn't. Like several/many things about the DirecTV computer system, it would need to be manually "corrected".
And here is the post containing that e-mail which delineates their policy on commitment extensions on replacement of defective receivers. It includes the statement, "If there is ever an instance where these policies are not correctly adhered to on your account, please let DIRECTV know immediately so that the situation can be rectified in a timely manner."
K4SMX said:
And here is the post containing that e-mail which delineates their policy on commitment extensions on replacement of defective receivers. It includes the statement, "If there is ever an instance where these policies are not correctly adhered to on your account, please let DIRECTV know immediately so that the situation can be rectified in a timely manner."
Well, that CSR's reply, if correct, would clearly indicate that the only reason for an extension would be an upgrade or additional receiver. Never for a technical replacement. Which is as it should be.

To which I would only ask - why don't they (or do they?) put this in the terms of service?
They don’t publish the policy because it is to their advantage for it to be vague. Keeping customers under commitments reduces churn and removes any need to negotiate equipment upgrade prices. Even if the commitment was extended erroneously, how many people (besides us here) are going to know the official policy and would even fight it? With so many CSR’s extending commitments for equipment replacements, it seems like they even believe it’s the policy. My guess is getting such an erroneous situation corrected would be very difficult and few customers would ever succeed in accomplishing it.
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