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Link - asside from the fact that WLS is NOT your local ABC station, but Chicago's local ABC station, wouldn't have made more sense to write the ABC network directly??? :confused: As their response to you indicates, they could care LESS about you viewing their Chicago station; you guys are not even a tiny blip on their radar.
 

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Why is WLS NOT my local ABC station since I now live in Aurora? Post made regarding the Terre Haute DMA refer to my family and friends where I used to live.
Well, I obviously didn't know all that, sorry. (hint: your profile saying you're in the "midwest" doesn't exactly explain this :D :p ) You understand my point though - it is NOT your "family & friends local ABC station" - it is ONLY local to YOU. WLS is an ABC station they happen to watch because that is what they choose to get via DNS. (as opposed to NY, Denver, or LA) WLS does NOT give a rat's hieny about your F&F watching them - period!

Terre Haute has got to be one of the absolute worst DMAs to be in for TV stations!
Totally agree - if I was your F&F, I'd be "moving" to another market (Indy perhaps) or switch to D*, instead of dickin' around trying to get the NPS/DNS cluster-f#$%. (assuming that D* would qualify them for a DNS ABC, which is NOT always a safe bet - they might possibly be in the grade B for WICD-Champaign, which then they will STILL be SOL for ABC through DBS) It's probably actually worse than MY market, which is definately NOT anything to write home about. (but we do at least have all the nets, including 2 PBS's :) ) Unfortunately, we are STILL waiting on our CBS-Nexstar cartel to grace our market with ANY kind of HD signal anyway, which probably WON'T reach me off air, unless I choose to get it through cable. :rolleyes: No matter though - D* has taken care of that for me... ;) :D
 

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My parents do get WICD on cable but they almost lost it Dec. 1st because of some Mediacom/Sinclair dispute. They not have it at least until January 5th I think if they can resolve the dispute.
Yea same here w/WICS - I got SO sick & tired of see their stupid ticker on the bottom of the screen EVERY 1/4 hour warning viewers to call Medicacom & switch to D*. Thankfully, I have MULTIPLE options for networks, so I didn't have to put it with it! :D Sinclair did grant Mediacom an extension as you said, so we'll probably have to hear it again.

Are you serious that WCIA doesn't have an HD signal yet?
Yup, as a heart attack! And, now with the major ice & snow storm we are STILL digging out from over here, I don't expect them to now get it up until spring at best. :rolleyes: If you go to http://www.wcia.com/highdef.asp you can see all the wonderful progress they ARE making...

The other two market stations are Nexstar and they aren't in HD yet either and won't be until 2008 I think.
They'll probably be waiting longer than THAT - Nexstar is so poor, you know & just can't afford to spend all that money. (at least that's what THEY are saying)
 

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Awhile back when I was home a friend and I had on the news on WTHI and I couldn't believe how cheesy it was. It was like they were reading the stories straight out of a newspaper. They'd read the headline and then start the story. It was pathetic and I emailed them and told them so!!
Yea, am I'm sure your letter ended up in file 13 - why WOULD they care; they OWN you, at least as far as getting that network's programming.

Are WAND, WRSP, and WICS in HD?
Not only are ALL 3 of them in HD, but so is WBUI (CW), WILL & WSEC, both of which are PBS. On top of that, WICS (& WICD) offer The Tube as a subchannel, while both PBS's offer PBS Create on their subchannels. AND, as if that wasn't enough, Insight cable all over Springfield, Decatur & Champaign offer ALL of these locals in HD, as well as ALL of the current subchannels of these stations. (including the dopplar radar on WAND) We even all now get WEIU-51 out of Charleston, which was just added in Springfield on digital. (just SD though) Truthfully, with all of these additions, getting DBS for HD prog is just NOT that much of a sure thing anymore in my market anymore.

The ONLY locals NOT up in HD are WCIA & it's sister WCFN-MYTV. Nexstar says they are going to get IT up as well, but I'm not holding my breath. Insight says they already have the retrans agreement in place to add WCIA-DT the day their HD signal goes live - we'll see about that. :confused:
 

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I'd say their VHF SD signal isn't of as much value anymore in the market.
Why do you say this? Contrary to all the "HD geeks" out there, SD is NOT dead by any means, at least not now. WCIA gets carriage of their SD signal on both D* & E*, as well as on ALL cable systems in our DMA.

But the REALLY pathetic thing is, WCIA is the ONLY station in our DMA that is NOT capable of anywhere covering the entire DMA with a grade B signal. Everything west of & including Springfield is considered "white area" for WCIA, which is why they USED to use WCFN in Spfld as their translator for WCIA. That all came to a screeching halt back in April '04, when they changed it to a totally separate UPN (now MYTV) station. They then put up their digital transmitters (abet at lower power) for both WCIA AND WCFN & carry BOTH stations in SD only on BOTH DT's. This is how the cable systems all over the DMA now are picking up BOTH UPN & CBS in the entire DMA. Which this means is - unless you have a VERY big & tall TV antenna in Springfield to pull in WCIA directly, or have a digital TV that can up in the OTA digital WCFN, you CANNOT get CBS in Springfield, unless you have cable or DBS now. It's not really that big of shock, as WCIA has ALWAYS screwed over the Spfld portion of our market - CBS actually gave their blessing to the whole mess, as they wanted to get UPN in our market as well. :rolleyes:

So, WCIA is actually getting by with only needing to cover a portion of their viewing area, but thanks to DBS & cable penetration, they get FULL coverage of BOTH of their CBS & MYTV affiliates across our entire DMA with only ONE transmitter for each network, while the other stations either use 2 stations (WICS/WICD & WRSP/WCCU) on both sides of the DMA, or have their transmitters in the middle of the DMA. (WAND & WBUI)
 

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I just meant that with the launch of digital signals being the only VHF commercial station in a market isn't going to matter as much in the future.
Sorry, NOT true - WILL-DT is on ch 9. But also be aware that WILL's towers are in Monticello, while WCIA's are in Seymour, which is about 10-15 miles farther east of Monticello. I actually AM pulling in WILL-DT only 20' off the ground with a strong locked signal with no pixelating, etc.

Also, there is a rumor going around that WCIA may move back to 3 after the analog shuts down. (As JL just mentioned)

Didn't WAND used to have a repeater in Danville on channel 68 several years back?
They STILL do, but it got moved to ch 31 a few years ago.
 

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WCIA filed to stay on DT 48 on February 9th, 2005.
I believe you, this is something that a couple people "in the know" in Champaign on the avs board had mentioned very recently. But knowing Nexstar, this could be true for a simple reason. It is MUCH cheaper to transmit on VHF channels than UHF channels & cover the SAME area. (I have heard this about other VHF stations contemplating doing the same after analog shut-down) Knowing what tightwads Nexstar is, it would actually make sense. :rolleyes:

It is a Nexstar station ... I'd be suprised if they were still licensed in 2009. The renewal they filed in 2005 and 2006 still has not been approved.
Are you saying that you do NOT think Nexstar will be owning TV stations in the future? (or at least THIS one anyway)
 
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