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There is a failure to understand on both sides of this issue.

Prior to Dec 2004 it was perfectly legal to provide WLS to anyone in the country outside of the Grade B coverage of all local ABCs. After Dec 2004 it was perfectly legal to provide WLS to anyone in the country outside of the Grade B coverage of all local ABCs and not in a market with an ABC local carried by that satellite provider. Not to mention it being perfectly legal to provide WLS to anyone who could get waivers from their local ABC stations.

WLS has absolutely no control over how their signal is transmitted as a distant. No permission is required for a satellite company to choose to reboadcast WLS or any other station's signal outside of it's own market as a distant. All the satellite company has to do is follow the law.

For WLS to call carriage that fell under 17 USC 119 illegal shows a total lack of understanding.
 

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Nahh. No reason to bury every post in that thread.
 

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BobS said:
A little off. Provision of distant signals to unserved is ok. However, a waiver implies a served customer and in that instance would be prohibited unless the station in question gave permission. It would be pretty silly to require the permission of the local affiliate but not the actual broadcasting station.
Silly or not it is TRUE, Bob. One gets the waiver from the local station(s) who have the right to serve you, no permission at all is needed from the distant station that one gets to see. :)
 

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BobS said:
See 47 USC 325(b) and note 47 USC 325(b)(2)(C)(ii).
Nice reference:
(b) Consent to retransmission of broadcasting station signals
(2) This subsection shall not apply -
(C) until December 31, 2009, to retransmission of the signals of network stations directly to a home satellite antenna, if the subscriber receiving the signal -
(ii) resides in an unserved household;​
As it states in 47 USC 325, the definition of unserved comes from 17 USC 119 (d)
(10) Unserved household. -
The term ''unserved household'', with respect to a particular television network, means a household that -
(A) cannot receive, through the use of a conventional, stationary, outdoor rooftop receiving antenna, an over-the-air signal of a primary network station affiliated with that network of Grade B intensity as defined by the Federal Communications Commission under section 73.683(a) of title 47 of the Code of Federal Regulations, as in effect on January 1, 1999;
(B) is subject to a waiver that meets the standards of sub-section (a)(14) whether or not the waiver was granted before the date of the enactment of the Satellite Home Viewer Extension and Reauthorization Act of 2004;
(C) is a subscriber to whom subsection (e) applies;
(D) is a subscriber to whom subsection (a)(11) (a)(12) applies; or
(E) is a subscriber to whom the exemption under subsection (a)(2)(B)(iii) applies.​
Waivered households are, by definition, unserved. :)

Thanks for helping me prove that carriage of WLS outside of it's market to unserved households (which includes those with waivers) does NOT require the permission of WLS.
 

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Link said:
I just meant that with the launch of digital signals being the only VHF commercial station in a market isn't going to matter as much in the future.
There are some signal differences between VHF and UHF. Perhaps some VHFs will move to UHF to get better coverage without (thanks to virtual numbers) giving up their historic dial positions.
 

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WCIA filed to stay on DT 48 on February 9th, 2005. (See here.)

It is a Nexstar station ... I'd be suprised if they were still licensed in 2009. The renewal they filed in 2005 and 2006 still has not been approved.
 

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Nexstar has not been very proactive in making the shift to digital. They are certainly not a TV ownership company that I expect to succeed. Perhaps they will sell a few stations to get the cash to build what they need to build to stay on the air.
 
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