The SWM was designed to work with RG59, so it shouldn't be a problem.mobandit said:
It sounds like you can connect a DVR to each SWM output and your legacy SD to the legacy ports and not even need splitters.
Self-Install of SWM?
I know you guru's here at DBSTalk can help, so here's my situation:
5-LNB dish already installed, good signal to two (2) HD-DVR's and two (2) legacy SD receivers (D10, I believe). Both DVR's have only one cable ran to their respective locations (pre-wired in the house). I will not run external cables to either location for aesthetic reasons. I know a SWM8 will meet my needs. However, all of the cabling inside my house is RG59, not RG6. Up til now it hasn't been an issue, will it become an issue should I decide to install a SWM?
Thanks ahead of time for your inputs!
5-LNB dish already installed, good signal to two (2) HD-DVR's and two (2) legacy SD receivers (D10, I believe). Both DVR's have only one cable ran to their respective locations (pre-wired in the house). I will not run external cables to either location for aesthetic reasons. I know a SWM8 will meet my needs. However, all of the cabling inside my house is RG59, not RG6. Up til now it hasn't been an issue, will it become an issue should I decide to install a SWM?
Thanks ahead of time for your inputs!
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It sounds like you can connect a DVR to each SWM output and your legacy SD to the legacy ports and not even need splitters.
Wow! Thanks for the quick reply. I wasn't sure about RG59 versus RG6, so I wanted some confirmation.veryoldschool said:The SWM was designed to work with RG59, so it shouldn't be a problem.
It sounds like you can connect a DVR to each SWM output and your legacy SD to the legacy ports and not even need splitters.
As far as hooking it up, that's exactly what I thought I could do. A very simple, almost PlugNPlay, installation with no splitters needed. I bet I could do it in under an hour!
Now to "fine tune" your plan:mobandit said:Wow! Thanks for the quick reply. I wasn't sure about RG59 versus RG6, so I wanted some confirmation.
As far as hooking it up, that's exactly what I thought I could do. A very simple, almost PlugNPlay, installation with no splitters needed. I bet I could do it in under an hour!
You do want RG6 from the dish to the SWM. It would be good to use at least 15' of RG6 to the power inserter. These are the legs that carry the DC power. The other legs don't and RG59 should work fine with the smaller center conductor.
I'm pretty sure the cable from the current dish location to the multiswitch location is all RG6, it was installed by Ironwood when I upgraded to HD a couple of years ago, but I haven't verified that...I guess my one real problem is going to be how to use RG6 for the PI? I was planning on connecting the PI in the living room (UPS already there for the HR21-700), but that would mean RG59 going back to the SWM...so how do I do that...that seems to be the question?veryoldschool said:Now to "fine tune" your plan:
You do want RG6 from the dish to the SWM. It would be good to use at least 15' of RG6 to the power inserter. These are the legs that carry the DC power. The other legs don't and RG59 should work fine with the smaller center conductor.
How far is this?mobandit said:I'm pretty sure the cable from the current dish location to the multiswitch location is all RG6, it was installed by Ironwood when I upgraded to HD a couple of years ago, but I haven't verified that...I guess my one real problem is going to be how to use RG6 for the PI? I was planning on connecting the PI in the living room (UPS already there for the HR21-700), but that would mean RG59 going back to the SWM...so how do I do that...that seems to be the question?
Is there any AC near the multi-switch?
The current multiswitch is outside. I originally had cable, and they already had put up a box to house their splitters. When I first got D*, they installed the multiswitch in that box. The cable run from the dish to the box is probably 15-20' with the drip loops. Doesn't the PI have to be inside the house...not designed for exterior use, I thought?veryoldschool said:How far is this?
Is there any AC near the multi-switch?
Yes, the PI needs to be inside.mobandit said:The current multiswitch is outside. I originally had cable, and they already had put up a box to house their splitters. When I first got D*, they installed the multiswitch in that box. The cable run from the dish to the box is probably 15-20' with the drip loops. Doesn't the PI have to be inside the house...not designed for exterior use, I thought?
What is the length of the shortest run from there [the box] to a DVR?
Shortest run is probably the master bedroom...no way to measure but the run can't be over 15-25' from the wallplate to the multiswitch, it could be shorter, but not by much. The interior of my basement is entirely finished, so where the cables go, exactly, after coming through the wall is a guess on my part. They could go straight up and through the ceiling of the basement directly to the master bedroom, or they could follow the wall. If they used the ceiling, then it is short, 15-20'. If they followed the wall then it is probably 20-25'. The run from the living room, where the other DVR is located, is much longer, as it is on the opposite side of the house.veryoldschool said:Yes, the PI needs to be inside.
What is the length of the shortest run from there [the box] to a DVR?
I doubt you would have problems if you put the PI on the shorter RG59 run.
I actually have my PI at the end of a 25ft run of RG59.bobnielsen said:I doubt you would have problems if you put the PI on the shorter RG59 run.
It's been that way for almost five months with no problems.
I have 6 tuners(3 DVRs).
Mike
Thanks, guys. Now, to get the purchase authorized by the Boss!
I called D* and tried to get them to do it...they claimed SWMs aren't available in the KCMO area yet, although I know Ironwood already has some trained techs and are handling some work orders with SWMs.
I called D* and tried to get them to do it...they claimed SWMs aren't available in the KCMO area yet, although I know Ironwood already has some trained techs and are handling some work orders with SWMs.
Yeah, the Boss can be tough. She doesn't always see things the way I do. :lol:mobandit said:Thanks, guys. Now, to get the purchase authorized by the Boss!
I called D* and tried to get them to do it...they claimed SWMs aren't available in the KCMO area yet, although I know Ironwood already has some trained techs and are handling some work orders with SWMs.
Mike
The HSPs (Ironwood) are getting the SWMLnbs, not the SWM8 (external SWM). The SWM8s are primarily going to MDUs still.mobandit said:Thanks, guys. Now, to get the purchase authorized by the Boss!
I called D* and tried to get them to do it...they claimed SWMs aren't available in the KCMO area yet, although I know Ironwood already has some trained techs and are handling some work orders with SWMs.
Well, my next door neighbor's best friend is an Ironwood installer, he said they have SWM8's. Maybe they're only for MDU installation...but according to him, they have them.RobertE said:The HSPs (Ironwood) are getting the SWMLnbs, not the SWM8 (external SWM). The SWM8s are primarily going to MDUs still.
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I've been on the fence about buying a SWM8 but recent activities have made me decide now is the time. The recent offer of EQ swaps has landed me two free DVRs. The rooms that have these DVRs are Single Wire with no hope of a Second Wire rooms. My bedroom DVR is an HR20 with the same Single Wire situation.
I found this guy selling the SWM8 for 160 and he's throwing in the STS-4 (a $15 part) if ordered before 7/12. He's only got 7 ratings, so I hope he's legit. He's offering two more at the same price.
When I talked to the guy who installed my first DVR, he knew that the SWM LNB was coming but was oblivious to the SWM8 switch. Leads me to believe he doesn't do MDUs and therefore wasn't trained on SWM8. He was also unaware of the fact that the SWM8 could do legacy EQ.
For me, I consider the final price of $172 to get the SWM8 and two HD DVRs a pretty good investment/use of money. My daughter has been begging me to get her a second line so she can watch baseball while she records her shows. She'll finally get what she wants....
I've been on the fence about buying a SWM8 but recent activities have made me decide now is the time. The recent offer of EQ swaps has landed me two free DVRs. The rooms that have these DVRs are Single Wire with no hope of a Second Wire rooms. My bedroom DVR is an HR20 with the same Single Wire situation.
I found this guy selling the SWM8 for 160 and he's throwing in the STS-4 (a $15 part) if ordered before 7/12. He's only got 7 ratings, so I hope he's legit. He's offering two more at the same price.
When I talked to the guy who installed my first DVR, he knew that the SWM LNB was coming but was oblivious to the SWM8 switch. Leads me to believe he doesn't do MDUs and therefore wasn't trained on SWM8. He was also unaware of the fact that the SWM8 could do legacy EQ.
For me, I consider the final price of $172 to get the SWM8 and two HD DVRs a pretty good investment/use of money. My daughter has been begging me to get her a second line so she can watch baseball while she records her shows. She'll finally get what she wants....
i hooked up a SWM for my home office where i need more than one receiver and couldn't run individual lines for each DVR, very easy, i have the power supply in my office actually so it's out of the way of anyone but me destroying it (kids kids kids)
let me know if u have any questions, my limited knowledge of it all might be of service
One note: make sure when u unscrew all your cables from the multiswitch to make sure to color code each one for each room, it can get messy with 10 diff cables to figure out
let me know if u have any questions, my limited knowledge of it all might be of service
One note: make sure when u unscrew all your cables from the multiswitch to make sure to color code each one for each room, it can get messy with 10 diff cables to figure out
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