Sharing recordings

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bjb236

Discussion Starter · Aug 23, 2008

My wife has been asking me to add a second 722 to our bedroom so we can watch HD on our 42 in LCD. Right now we just have it connected via coax to the 722 in the living room because we like to be able to view our DVR recordings on all of our TVs. We can have up to 50 timers a week, so duplicating our timers doesn't sound like an easy idea. Has anybody found a good way to share recordings between the receivers? I know you can't do it over ethernet, but maybe using the EHD? Can you hook one EHD to multiple receivers using a wireless USB bridge? Or maybe some other ideas? Our living room and bedroom are on different floors and different sides of the house, so I'm trying to avoid the "sneaker-net" scenerio.

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forya

· #2 · Aug 23, 2008

I had the same question, what I am doing is running a 50ft component cable out of my tv 1 and i ordered a UHF pro remote from DN so I can control it from another room. You will be stuck watching the same program, unless you leave the RG6 cable from TV 2 and when you want to watch separate things, you can still watch the SD on the bedroom tv from TV2's out

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Ken Green

· #3 · Aug 23, 2008

Unfortunately, at the present time, you're out of luck. You choices are:
-Add either a 722 or 612 to the bedroom TV.
-Use the EHD, but using the EHD for this (transferring recordings) would take more time than managing the duplicate recordings.
-Do what Forya does, and run a second HD output to the bedroom, realizing the TV1 programming (HD) viewed on both TV's will always be the same.

EHD is not currently supported by any type of USB hubbing or bridging.

I have several ViP receivers, and once you get your timers set, managing them, even as duplicates of another receiver, is of little effort.

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forya

· #4 · Aug 23, 2008

Verizon just sent me a notice that the FIOS will be in my neighborhood soon, They are saying how their receivers all share recordings, and the offer on demand. This looks promising. I really like my DN vip722, but if dish doesn't come up with something, I might have to switch.

The 30 MB/s internet connection looks good too

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Rogueone

· #5 · Aug 27, 2008

forya said:
Verizon just sent me a notice that the FIOS will be in my neighborhood soon, They are saying how their receivers all share recordings, and the offer on demand. This looks promising. I really like my DN vip722, but if dish doesn't come up with something, I might have to switch.

The 30 MB/s internet connection looks good too

you need to read that sale pitch better though

I have access to FIOS and have not made the change for several reasons.

1) DVR is junk compared to even a 622, let alone a 722. They're dvr only has 20 hr record time, my 622 has been over 20 hours used for 3 months. various programs i haven't watched yet, etc.

2) only 2 tuners per box. Dish's 622/722 offer 3 via OTA, which I have and use regularly. This is a huge issue, as I'd have to connect 2 FIOS HD DVR's to one DVR to resolve this.

3) sharing. requires 1 media center dvr, and the unit for the other tv's is limited to the base SD tuner. You will NOT get your shows in HD. it's a waste considering you need a tuner in every room. If you want that, just use the RF out on the 722 to feed it's signals to your other TVs

4) from reports, they are no where near as reliable as the dish dvr's

5) haven't found out for sure, but do the moto's fios uses spool the programming on the 2nd tuner while you watch the 1st, or while you watch a recorded show?? my 622 allows the "other" tuner to keep spooling it's programming while I watch the "active" tuner, and I can swap back and worth to watch 2 live shows at the same time, without watching them live

or, the 2nd tuner spools while I watch a dvr program, then I can check out the 2nd tuner when done. for example, I'll put on baseball, swap tuners so baseball is the 'other' tuner, watch a dvr program, when over, swap back to baseball, and if my team scored, I rewind and watch how they scored

it's friggin awesome!!

These are issues I do not think FIOS can resolve, and FIOS is WAY behind on HD offerings. They're channel offering is still weak compared to Dish and DTV. Do your due diligence before buying into the hype

FYI, I have a personal incentive to push fios, as I have a job supporting FIOS. But for the reasons I've listed, I can't make the change, it simply isn't worth it right now.

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4HiMarks

· #6 · Aug 28, 2008

Rogueone said:
you need to read that sale pitch better though
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3) sharing. requires 1 media center dvr, and the unit for the other tv's is limited to the base SD tuner. You will NOT get your shows in HD. it's a waste considering you need a tuner in every room.

It's even worse than that. Not only will you not get your shows in HD, but if they were recorded in HD, you won't be able to get them on the 2nd TV at all! Not even downrezzed to SD. The STB on TV2 will show it as available in the EPG, but if you try to play it, you get an error message.

You would have to record every show twice, once in HD and once in SD, if you thought you might ever want to watch it on TV2. This also means you can't start watching on TV1, pause it, and finish watching in bed on TV2.

I couldn't believe they were so lame when I first heard it. A friend got FiOS and I thought he just wasn't familiar with multi-room DVRs. But I have since verified it on AVS Forum, and talking to other FiOS users.

-Chris

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Rogueone

· #7 · Aug 29, 2008

thanks crazy because that would seem to be in complete contrast to the commercials they are airing. how is there not a class action suit against them for false advertising?? If they won't even show the HD program in SD, then there is NO WAY in hell I'd change over. ugh.

and I am correct that you can't watch HD programs elsewhere right? has to be on the main unit only?

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ImBack234

· #8 · Aug 29, 2008

4HiMarks said:
It's even worse than that. Not only will you not get your shows in HD, but if they were recorded in HD, you won't be able to get them on the 2nd TV at all! Not even downrezzed to SD. The STB on TV2 will show it as available in the EPG, but if you try to play it, you get an error message.

You would have to record every show twice, once in HD and once in SD, if you thought you might ever want to watch it on TV2. This also means you can't start watching on TV1, pause it, and finish watching in bed on TV2.

I couldn't believe they were so lame when I first heard it. A friend got FiOS and I thought he just wasn't familiar with multi-room DVRs. But I have since verified it on AVS Forum, and talking to other FiOS users.

-Chris

Thanks for the info.
To me those are all good reason to stay away from fios. Never mind fios would cost me more then E!!! I bet at least twice as much!!!:eek2:

Never mind what Chris said.
I love my 622 for the fact that I can and do share all my recordings on 3 sets.
With out getting bent offer for a total of 3 boxs.

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