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Let's see you invent a sport that becomes immensely popular.dpfaunts said:Well on that top 10 list is the guy that invented basketball. Jobs was certainly a better inventor/patent holder than that guy.
When all of Steve Jobs current fan boys/haters have passed I think historians should take a look at voting him into the Hall of Fame.Chris Blount said:Do you think Steve Jobs should be added to that list?
I was curious as to how to vote... then I read the above and it was clear.Earl Bonovich said:Not Yet.
Most of the people on that list, it took a while to understand what they brougth to the table.
What did Steve Jobs invent? Directly... He brought Apple back from the brinks, to get it to the place it has today.
Apple as a company has built some amazing devices, and have changed a lot of things.
But did Steve himself build them? There is no doubt he had ideas and influence.
Time... Time will dictate what direct impact Steve the individual had.
There is no doubt, he is one of the great minds of the industry.... But was his positioning of the product, the marketting aspects that put the iPod above all other players... is that what started the trend? (as we all know the iPod wasn't the first mobile mp3 player).
Time... too soon...
And this isn't to say that he doesn't belong... eventually..
I just think we need to see what happens now... does the innovation continue? Does the dominance continue? Can all paths be traced back to Steve? (Or most paths)
Someone else did... They call it facebook and twitter, the great sports of this century :grin:sigma1914 said:Let's see you invent a sport that becomes immensely popular.
:lol: True.dpfaunts said:Someone else did... They call it facebook and twitter, the great sports of this century :grin:
Since there's no physical interaction, I'm not sure I'd call them sports.dpfaunts said:Someone else did... They call it facebook and twitter, the great sports of this century :grin:
I agree with the above. Jobs and Woz invented the Apple "pc" in their garage, and that started it all, but when it comes to the later products, isn't it more that he managed many individual projects really well, by assembling teams of creative thinkers, design specialists, etc., and collaboratively the Apple company invented the great devices so many people call revolutionary today?Steve said:[...] But I don't consider him as much a "hands-on" inventor as he is a visionary. I liken him more to Walt Disney than Thomas Edison, e.g.
OK, I should have continued reading past Steve's post (our Steve!Earl Bonovich said:Not Yet.
Most of the people on that list, it took a while to understand what they brougth to the table.
What did Steve Jobs invent? Directly... He brought Apple back from the brinks, to get it to the place it has today.
Apple as a company has built some amazing devices, and have changed a lot of things.
But did Steve himself build them? There is no doubt he had ideas and influence.
Time... Time will dictate what direct impact Steve the individual had.
There is no doubt, he is one of the great minds of the industry.... But was his positioning of the product, the marketting aspects that put the iPod above all other players... is that what started the trend? (as we all know the iPod wasn't the first mobile mp3 player).
Time... too soon...
And this isn't to say that he doesn't belong... eventually..
I just think we need to see what happens now... does the innovation continue? Does the dominance continue? Can all paths be traced back to Steve? (Or most paths)