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For those members who have the new Slimline dish, could you post your readings on all 5 satellites? I'm trying to compare differences versus the AT-9.
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well I get a 90+ (most in high 90's) signal on 4 sats, the 5th one is the only one not coming in great is the 99 sat, but I was told it's cause nothing is live yet. They were surprised I had any signal at all but it was 50+ on that one:eek2: ... hth..cybrsurfer said:For those members who have the new Slimline dish, could you post your readings on all 5 satellites? I'm trying to compare differences versus the AT-9.
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Are you getting high 90's on ALL transponders for the 4 sats or just some of them?jwren said:well I get a 90+ (most in high 90's) signal on 4 sats, the 5th one is the only one not coming in great is the 99 sat, but I was told it's cause nothing is live yet. They were surprised I had any signal at all but it was 50+ on that one:eek2: ... hth..
You should get all five, you don't necessarily need all tp's on 99 and 103, but you should get some depending on your market. 99 is active and so is 103.jwren said:well I get a 90+ (most in high 90's) signal on 4 sats, the 5th one is the only one not coming in great is the 99 sat, but I was told it's cause nothing is live yet. They were surprised I had any signal at all but it was 50+ on that one:eek2: ... hth..
I can't look right now but I know my locals come in on 103 and are coming in perfect. As far as I know all 4 I need come in perfect, the one I don't need (99) doesn't come in good, but I don't need it to.cybrsurfer said:You should get all five, you don't necessarily need all tp's on 99 and 103, but you should get some depending on your market. 99 is active and so is 103.
You should be getting all tp's on 119. Also for comparison I get all tp's on 99 and 4 tp's on 103, so I would say you need to have your dish peaked or aligned better. Most installers who do standard installs don't peak as they should.Phil T said:Here is what I get Southwest of Denver CO. Slimline was installed last Friday.
Transponder#-SS
101
1-97 2-95 3-95 4-95 5-95 6-95 7-95 8-91
9-96 10-95 11-95 12-100 13-96 14-95 15-95 16-91
17-96 18-0 19-96 20-0 21-96 22-92 23-95 24-91
25-95 26-82 27-96 28-0 29-97 30-92 31-94 32-92
110
8-95 10-96 12-96
119
22-95 23-0 24-95
25-62 26-94 27-95 28-91 29-0 30-88 31-100 32-92
99
1-0 2-0 3-0 4-0 5-0 6-0
103
1-0 2-0 3-100 4-0 5-0 6-0
This isn't correct. TPs 23 and 29 where he gets zero signal are carried by spot beams and I believe do not cover Colorado. 25 is also carried by spot beams and the lower reading is probably because he is at the edge of the spot beam but it's probably not carrying any of his locals so that is OK.cybrsurfer said:You should be getting all tp's on 119. Also for comparison I get all tp's on 99 and 4 tp's on 103, so I would say you need to have your dish peaked or aligned better. Most installers who do standard installs don't peak as they should.
I feel you should look into it further...texasbrit said:This isn't correct. TPs 23 and 29 where he gets zero signal are carried by spot beams and I believe do not cover Colorado. 25 is also carried by spot beams and the lower reading is probably because he is at the edge of the spot beam but it's probably not carrying any of his locals so that is OK.
And I am going to quote from my previous post:
QUOTE: If you have HD locals they will be on either 99 or 103. You may not get any signal at all on the other satellite. People in the Eastern part of the country will often see signal on both satellites since they may be inside multiple spot beams. In the central/western part of the U.S., many times you will only see the spot beams carrying your locals. UNQUOTE
So it is perfectly normal not to see any signals on the 99 and 103 satellites if you are not in an HD local spotbeam. Phil T is near Denver and his HD locals are obviously all on sat 103 transponder 3 where he has a signal strength of 100. . He is not in the footprint of any of the other sat 99 or 103 spotbeams so does not get any other signals. As long as he is getting his HD locals there is nothing to be concerned about.
Im merely trying to point out differences. I feel you should get something is all I'm saying. Once HD goes to MPEG4/Ka next year to 99 and 103, then it's a good idea to get as many tp's as necessary now. Next year they will launch 2 more Ka satellites to orbital 99 and 103 for a total of 2 @ 99 & 103, stacked on top of each other. So I would hope you have the best peaked dish you can now. Go ahead and do nothing, next year don't say I didn't try to warn you.:sure:texasbrit said:I'm sorry, but the only way you can tell if the AT9 is getting better reception than the slimline is to test them both under exactly the same conditions, which really means in the lab. If you can't do this, then set up both dishes in the same location and make sure they are both aligned. Then test them both with the SAME receiver. It may be that the AT9 gets better reception than the slimline but your numbers don't prove anything...
And I repeat that 99 and 103 are only received in certain locations.
That's just not true.cybrsurfer said:I don't care where you are geographically in the US, with a correctly aligned dish you should get all tp's on 101,110 &119 and most tp's on 99 & 103.
Eastern cities are much closer together than out west so there will be many overlapping spotbeams which is the reason you only have 2 transponders with a zero signal.cybrsurfer said:Well why do I get all tp's on my AT-9? I'm in Massachusetts...
Absolutely right Halo. In the East as well as your own spotbeams you will see several others because the cities with locals are much closer together. In the Western part of the U.S. a lot of the time the only spot beam that you can receive is your "own", particularly with HD locals because so few cities have them. As the number of cities with HD locals increases there will be more spotbeams and so you might find you are on the edge of someone else's spotbeam. When the DirecTV 10 and 11 sats launch next year there will be national channels from 99 and 103 so at that point you will start to see those transponders.Halo said:That's just not true.
If you are outside of of a spotbeam footprint you can aim all day and not get a signal for that particular transponder. If you are outside the spotbeam then there is no signal to be collected. Seriously, I could have a 50ft dish in california and I would still get zero signal from a spotbeam covering New York.
Eastern cities are much closer together than out west so there will be many overlapping spotbeams which is the reason you only have 2 transponders with a zero signal.
Absolutely NOT true for all the reasons others have posted.cybrsurfer said:I don't care where you are geographically in the US, with a correctly aligned dish you should get all tp's on 101,110 &119 and most tp's on 99 & 103.
Any other comparison of signal strengths is almost totally meaningless.set up both dishes in the same location and make sure they are both aligned. Then test them both with the SAME receiver.
Thanks everyone for the feedback...carl6 said:Absolutely NOT true for all the reasons others have posted.
If you install the AT9 or Slimline in accordance with the instructions, and do the fine tuning alignment per instructions, your dish should be optimized for all 5 satellites. Future additions of national beams on 99 or 103 will work even if you don't see anything at all on them currently (because you are not in an active spot beam).
As texasbrit noted, in order to compare signal strengths you have to
Any other comparison of signal strengths is almost totally meaningless.
Carl
I'm finding on PM's that I'm getting and reading other posts about readings, that there are many others who get almost the same readings as I do. So it does help confirm that atleast in the Northeast, you should get the readings posted by others. Comparing and sharing information is helpful.carl6 said:Absolutely NOT true for all the reasons others have posted.
If you install the AT9 or Slimline in accordance with the instructions, and do the fine tuning alignment per instructions, your dish should be optimized for all 5 satellites. Future additions of national beams on 99 or 103 will work even if you don't see anything at all on them currently (because you are not in an active spot beam).
As texasbrit noted, in order to compare signal strengths you have to
Any other comparison of signal strengths is almost totally meaningless.
Carl