Very good advice. Why do "they" always lie.
Some advice when calling CSR's
I don't post here much, but I thought I'd give some words of advice when calling DTV if you're negotiating a new contract. Here's what happened to me this weekend:
I was on the phone with DTV for almost an hour trying to upgrade my hardware and services. I ended up getting new hardware (HR-34 and mini-client, which I paid money for), and was promised a bunch of free programming for a new 2-yr contract.
Before I called, I though it might be wise to record our conversation. So I fired up the Macbook and created a low-tech recording, using the speakerphone from my landline so the Macbook mic could pick up the conversation.
One of the services I was promised was the NBA League Pass. I had to call back DTV today, as I was having some issues with my mini-client and the whole-home feature. I logged onto my online account, and noticed that I didn't see anything about the NBA programming. When I mentioned this to my CSR, he said there was nothing in the notes about it, even though I was promised this. He said he couldn't turn that on for me.
I was elevated to a higher rep and told her the same story. She also said there was nothing in the notes of my conversation that indicated I was to get the NBA service.
To make a long story short, I had to actually play her the audio recording over the phone that I had made of my 1st call and find the part where the service was promised before she would make good on that promise, which she eventually did.
So, my words of wisdom to all of you is to record your conversations with them when you negotiate for new hardware/services. Because if they don't enter what they say in their computer system, or at least note it in your file, you could easily get screwed.
I hope this helps some of you in the future!
Good Luck
I was on the phone with DTV for almost an hour trying to upgrade my hardware and services. I ended up getting new hardware (HR-34 and mini-client, which I paid money for), and was promised a bunch of free programming for a new 2-yr contract.
Before I called, I though it might be wise to record our conversation. So I fired up the Macbook and created a low-tech recording, using the speakerphone from my landline so the Macbook mic could pick up the conversation.
One of the services I was promised was the NBA League Pass. I had to call back DTV today, as I was having some issues with my mini-client and the whole-home feature. I logged onto my online account, and noticed that I didn't see anything about the NBA programming. When I mentioned this to my CSR, he said there was nothing in the notes about it, even though I was promised this. He said he couldn't turn that on for me.
I was elevated to a higher rep and told her the same story. She also said there was nothing in the notes of my conversation that indicated I was to get the NBA service.
To make a long story short, I had to actually play her the audio recording over the phone that I had made of my 1st call and find the part where the service was promised before she would make good on that promise, which she eventually did.
So, my words of wisdom to all of you is to record your conversations with them when you negotiate for new hardware/services. Because if they don't enter what they say in their computer system, or at least note it in your file, you could easily get screwed.
I hope this helps some of you in the future!
Good Luck
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At less than one post a year, you are a master of understatement!
I do hope you announced that the conversation was being recorded for training purposes and their protection!
There are some statutes re recording phone conversations, but I have only a faint idea as to what they are.
I do hope you announced that the conversation was being recorded for training purposes and their protection!
There are some statutes re recording phone conversations, but I have only a faint idea as to what they are.
Say it ain't so, Joe. 'Cause "they", unless "they" refers to politicians, don't always lie.joe221 said:Very good advice. Why do "they" always lie.
I'm not accusing them of 'lying'. The CSR could have just not entered it in the system, or maybe he didn't know how. I'll never really know!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_recording_laws#United_StatesLaxguy said:At less than one post a year, you are a master of understatement!
I do hope you announced that the conversation was being recorded for training purposes and their protection!
There are some statutes re recording phone conversations, but I have only a faint idea as to what they are.
Twelve states currently require that all parties consent to the recording. These states are:
California
Connecticut
Florida
Illinois (debated, see next section)
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Montana (requires notification only)
Nevada
New Hampshire
Pennsylvania
Washington
Yeah, but in reality you got prerecorded announcement of "the conversation will be recorded ..." and no options for you, customer !sigma1914 said:
Option to hang up........:hurah:P Smith said:Yeah, but in reality you got prerecorded announcement of "the conversation will be recorded ..." and no options for you, customer !
generally a customer calling in has no reason to object to being recorded - the recordings really are just used for training and agent appraisal. The only exceptions I can think of are for threats and if there is a pattern of csr abuse and the company decides to invoke section 5c of the customer service agreement.
Btw, there are call centers in a number of those states mentioned...
Btw, there are call centers in a number of those states mentioned...
Interesting.sigma1914 said:
Two questions come up: Does a Texan have to abide by CA's rules on this? Hail no! Although some lawyers may disagree.
But in CA, if you're informed it's being recorded by the company you're calling, perhaps you get a "permission slip" to make your own.....
If you are calling from one state to another then you go with federal rules which are one party. YMMV IANALLaxguy said:Interesting.
Two questions come up: Does a Texan have to abide by CA's rules on this? Hail no! Although some lawyers may disagree.
But in CA, if you're informed it's being recorded by the company you're calling, perhaps you get a "permission slip" to make your own.....
So as long as you know you're recording, it's kosher? Just doesn't seem right. Not saying that's not the way the law works.
I don't know if it really matters if you are recording someone and they don't know about it, unless you plan to use it in court or for some other purpose other than to prove a point with the company you are doing business with.
The OP should have gotten the names and ID numbers of those he talked with.
I know I wouldn't like if I found out I was recorded without my knowledge. The usual argument it shouldn't matter if you aren't doing anything wrong (like someone video recording you without your knowledge) doesn't fly with me."n3vino" said:I don't know if it really matters if you are recording someone and they don't know about it, unless you plan to use it in court or for some other purpose other than to prove a point with the company you are doing business with.
Wow, that's a definition of arrogance with which I am not familiar. So it's arrogant for someone to protect himself against a company known for its occasional less-than-stellar treatment of its customers?anondtvtec said:Sounds like you're an arrogant sort who thinks nothing of the rights of others. It's people like you that deserve to be deactivated.
So it's arrogant for someone to be dissatisfied when a company does not keep its promise in exchange for a renewed 2 yr service contract?
And then it's arrogant for him to do what he could to hold the company to their end of the agreed upon bargain? Because we know the company doesn't hesitate to hold the customer to their end of the bargain. Just try to cancel your contract before term and see how arrogant the company gets with their fees.
Dapipes2, thank you so much for posting what not to do...I don't negotiate for new hardware/services as soon as I'm out of contract..and then complain when I don't get the royal treatment. If I did that, I would think I was a complete tool.
I am a DirecTV CSR/Supervisor and I wish that more customers would record the calls like Dapipes2. The only people that would have a problem with it are the people that most need to be recorded.anondtvtec said:Sounds like you're an arrogant sort who thinks nothing of the rights of others. It's people like you that deserve to be deactivated.
Ahh, a voice of sanity from someone at DirecTV. Very refreshing.smitbret said:I am a DirecTV CSR/Supervisor and I wish that more customers would record the calls like Dapipes2. The only people that would have a problem with it are the people that most need to be recorded.
I would just tell the Directv CSR that I am going to be Recording the Conversation so if there are any problems I can Replay the Conversation to keep everyone straight about what transpired and if the CSR has a problem with that then I would hang up and call back to get another CSR via the CSR Roulette Game.
If they object I would ask what the problem is because you are Recording our Conversation so why can't I have that same privilege to protect my Interests?
If they object I would ask what the problem is because you are Recording our Conversation so why can't I have that same privilege to protect my Interests?
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