[groove93]

Navigating through channels or just entering the channels I know, and doing it too fast, will lock up the box, but eventually the channel will change. I just encountered this issue again and noticed that the green light at the top of the remote would not turn off. I took out one of the batteries and placed it back in and it channged the channel immediately after pressing a button. I'm using the remote in RF mode.

Just a thought.

 

[veryoldschool]

Navigating through channels or just entering the channels I know, and doing it too fast, will lock up the box, but eventually the channel will change. I just encountered this issue again and noticed that the green light at the top of the remote would not turn off. I took out one of the batteries and placed it back in and it channged the channel immediately after pressing a button. I'm using the remote in RF mode.

Just a thought.

So do you have another remote? [kind of sounds more remote related]

 

[groove93]

No I don't have another remote, but if I did, why would the DVR stop responding even if I pressed the buttons on the actual box rather than touching the romote?

Appears to be more of a "bottlenecking" issue with the Interface.

Like having a 2 Ghz processor, a gig of ram, running on a slow 5400 rpm hard drive.

 

[veryoldschool]

No I don't have another remote, but if I did, why would the DVR stop responding even if I pressed the buttons on the actual box rather than touching the romote?

Appears to be more of a "bottlenecking" issue with the Interface.

Like having a 2 Ghz processor, a gig of ram, running on a slow 5400 rpm hard drive.

If the green light is still on the remote, then it is still sending "something" to the receiver and "swamping" the detector and by doing so makes even the front panel buttons "busy".

 

[Carl Spock]

I had this happen to me for the first time a few days ago with my HR20-700. I was trying to fly through the guide but suddenly everything stopped. I was using a Harmony 880 remote but I could see it was done sending commands. The DVR obviously wasn't done processing them. Stopping everything for maybe 20 seconds solved the problem.

A pretty minor glitch in my book but a glitch, none the less.

 

[groove93]

I had this happen to me for the first time a few days ago with my HR20-700. I was trying to fly through the guide but suddenly everything stopped. I was using a Harmony 880 remote but I could see it was done sending commands. The DVR obviously wasn't done processing them. Stopping everything for maybe 20 seconds solved the problem.

A pretty minor glitch in my book but a glitch, none the less.

I agree that this is a minor issue, but could help in figuring out why so many users are having lock up problems. Plus the fact that I'm coming from a Tivo interface so naturally I'm a bit critical of how this interface performs.

 

[Carl Spock]

Why did I know somebody would bring TiVo into this within 4 minutes of my post? You can be as critical as you want. For me, one lock-up for 20 seconds in 9 months of use is not even worth sweating.

 

[groove93]

Why did I know somebody would bring TiVo into this within 4 minutes of my post? You can be as critical as you want. For me, one lock-up for 20 seconds in 9 months of use is not even worth sweating.

My intent was not to say that the Tivo interface is better than D TV's, I'm just saying that going from one interface to the next, you tend to be more critical when comparing the two.

Windows and Macs

Deep Dish and Pan

Chevy and Fords

that is all

 

[Carl Spock]

My apologies, groove93. Of course, you are right. This is just my hot button right now. There are others here not as open minded and as accepting as you. Their pining for TiVo is the single most distasteful thing on this board, and a reason I've been seriously considering going back into a lurk mode for a while. I was that way here for three years. Maybe it would be the best thing again.

As you say, the difference is the same as blond versus brunette. But if God tomorrow made all women redheads, that still wouldn't be reason to go gay.

 

[groove93]

Oh believe me, I was dreading the day I would have to give up my Tivo, but when I finally got my upgrade and began to navigate around the interface, I was quite pleased. And the fact that I can do more in terms of networking, that's what I've been wanting in the old R10 Tivo box.

Could you tell any difference between IR and RF modes and how the Remote and DVR performed?

 

[Carl Spock]

Can't say. Since I use a Harmony, I'm always in the IR mode.

 

[groove93]

Can't say. Since I use a Harmony, I'm always in the IR mode.

I want to get an 880 to get rid of the this museum of remotes I've collected through the years. I have a Samsung DVD player that has a very slow response time to any remote programmed to it. This is one of the reasons why I'm wondering if it's a bottlenecking issue with the interface or as "veryoldschool" stated an issue with the remote and how it transmits data.

 

[groove93]

After a good 40 minutes, the response time for the remote to the DVR has been consistant and quick. I'm also taking into consideration that the only Resolution I have set is 1080i with Native set to "on". With the other resolutions enabled the screen would flicker like crazy and would take longer to receive the channel, especially when going from a SD channel to an HD channel.

 

[veryoldschool]

I see three things developing here:
1) the DVR will not respond for a few seconds to remote commands [inputs], which is usually because of "house keeping tasks" it's doing in the background [downloading guide data etc.]
2) the DVR completely locks up and requires a reset, as it won't respond to the front panel or the remote.
3) the first post of this thread, where the remote is "stuck" transmitting [the green light on it is on solid] requiring the batteries to be removed.

 

[veryoldschool]

I'm also taking into consideration that the only Resolution I have set is 1080i with Native set to "on".

You have defeated native "on" with only one resolution enabled. You might as well turn it off.

 

[groove93]

You have defeated native "on" with only one resolution enabled. You might as well turn it off.

After doing a couple of tests, I've discovered that image quality is better with it set to on. I originally had it off but noticed how crisper the picture quality was on a couple of HD Channels.

 

[veryoldschool]

After doing a couple of tests, I've discovered that image quality is better with it set to on. I originally had it off but noticed how crisper the picture quality was on a couple of HD Channels.

"technically" there is no difference, as native on is for passing the original signal out at the original resolution [this would be with all resolutions supported by your TV], so your TV does the scaling [once]. With only one resolution selected, it's outputting everything at your 1080i resolution and the DVR is forced to scale everything to that.
While you might "think" something looks better, I'm not sure what you're seeing as the DVR "doesn't care" and is forced into 1080i.

 

[groove93]

I can give you an example.

An episode of Torchwood that came on this week. There is a scene where they are resuscitating a dead woman. She's on a metal cart. The cart would jitter as the camera panned around the room. Out of curiosity, I set the Box to Native on, and the jitter was completely gone and the room had more detail than with native set to off.

There was also an instance where I was installing a Wireless Router so I was up close to the screen while watching MSNBC. While going though the DVRs menu settings I got curious and started messing with the native settings again. Looking at the Crawl at the bottom of the screen, the txt was much more defined with Native On.

I know these are small things but sitting back 8 feet from the display I do see a difference in clarity (depending on what I'm looking at, like blades of Grass or rock formations in HD).

The main reason why I'm only using 1080i is because I can't stand watching my Display blink and cycle back and forth to adjust to the approriate resulolution. It triggers headaches.

 

[veryoldschool]

I'm guessing this is on your Sony KDL46V2500.
I'm using a Bravia 46" XBR2 [it's big brother] in native on and all resolutions as it does a better job than the DVR, and [for me] is worth the wait.
If it looks better to you.. great, but I still don't know how anything in the DVR can be different in 1080i native on or off.

 

[jahgreen]

As you say, the difference is the same as blond versus brunette. But if God tomorrow made all women redheads, that still wouldn't be reason to go gay.

Hey, watch what you say. I'd be happy if He did that.