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· Cutting Edge: ECHELON '08
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Here is a little more information on the features in our new 0xEF update.

FAST Forward
The 0xEF release offers blazing speeds. Here are the design speeds . Your results will vary. The X FFW display was removed. For instance 1X was changed to 1 as 1X was misleading.

FFW1 - 5 times normal playback. (30 minutes in 6 minutes)

FFW2 - 12 times normal playback speed. (30 minutes in 2.5 minutes)
. . . . . . .This was increased slightly from 10x.

FFW3 - 20 times normal playback speed. (30 minutes in 1.5 minutes)

FFW4 - 90 times normal playback speed. (30 minutes in 20 Seconds)

SKIP1 - 300 times normal playback speed. (30 minutes in 6 Seconds)
. . . . . . .Press and hold FFW 3 seconds in a recording up to 60 minutes long

SKIP2 - 600 times normal playback speed. (30 minutes in 3 Seconds)
. . . . . . .Press and hold FFW 3 seconds in a recording of over 60 minutes long

Skip is your FFW5.

Giving Skip the Slip
The design speed for the Advance button (Slip) has doubled to the FF3 speed of 20 times normal playback speed. Again your results may vary. A 30 Second Slip is now shown in about 1.5 seconds.

Shown is the key word.

The old TiVo backdoor Skip took just under a second to skip 30 seconds. But the TiVo Slip screen did not update during the Skip. You had no idea where you were. The old TiVo Skip was blind.

If you pressed TiVo's Skip 8 times to go through 4 minutes of commercials during a game, you could overshoot by 1 or 2 minutes if the break turned out to be shorter. It doesn't matter how fast you are if you don't watch where you are going.

The HR20's Slip lets you see where you are and hit Replay to come back out.

Replay
Your Replay should now consistently go back 6 seconds. Better still, the Reply button is designed to work with the Advance (30 Second Slip) feature. If you see that you want to stop midway through a Slip, press Replay instead of Play. Replay is designed to work with Slip to put you close to where you expected to be.

If you have not taken the Wishlist Survey in the last week, click on that link below. Doug Brott has done a huge updated on the Survey. Also, the Tips, Installation, and Survival Guides below were just updated to include the new 0xEF improvements.

- Craig
 

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Milominderbinder2 said:
Here is a little more information on the features in our new 0xEF update.

FAST Forward
The 0xEF release offers blazing speeds. Here are the design speeds . Your results will vary. The X FFW display was removed. For instance 1X was changed to 1 as 1X was misleading.

FFW1 - 5 times normal playback. (30 minutes in 6 minutes)

FFW2 - 12 times normal playback speed. (30 minutes in 2.5 minutes)
. . . . . . .This was increased slightly from 10x.

FFW3 - 20 times normal playback speed. (30 minutes in 1.5 minutes)

FFW4 - 90 times normal playback speed. (30 minutes in 20 Seconds)

SKIP1 - 300 times normal playback speed. (30 minutes in 6 Seconds)
. . . . . . .Press and hold FFW 3 seconds in a recording up to 60 minutes long

SKIP2 - 600 times normal playback speed. (30 minutes in 3 Seconds)
. . . . . . .Press and hold FFW 3 seconds in a recording of over 60 minutes long

Skip is your FFW5.

Giving Skip the Slip
The design speed for the Advance button (Slip) has doubled to the FF3 speed of 20 times normal playback speed. Again your results may vary. A 30 Second Slip is now shown in about 1.5 seconds.

Shown is the key word.

The old TiVo backdoor Skip took just under a second to skip 30 seconds. But the TiVo Slip screen did not update during the Skip. You had no idea where you were. The old TiVo Skip was blind.

If you pressed TiVo's Skip 8 times to go through 4 minutes of commercials during a game, you could overshoot by 1 or 2 minutes if the break turned out to be shorter. It doesn't matter how fast you are if you don't watch where you are going.

The HR20's Slip lets you see where you are and hit Replay to come back out.

Replay
Your Replay should now consistently go back 6 seconds. Better still, the Reply button is designed to work with the Advance (30 Second Slip) feature. If you see that you want to stop midway through a Slip, press Replay instead of Play. Replay is designed to work with Slip to put you close to where you expected to be.

If you have not taken the Wishlist Survey in the last week, click on that link below. Doug Brott has done a huge updated on the Survey. Also, the Tips, Installation, and Survival Guides below were just updated to include the new 0xEF improvements.

- Craig
Every time you use DTivo skip, you see a frame - it is not "blind".
 

· Cutting Edge: ECHELON '08
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RCY said:
Every time you use Tivo skip, you see a frame - it is not "blind".
TiVo locks one frame on screen and then you are blind to the next 719 frames. Skip goes blind for the next 29 .9 seconds of content. Slip gives you 36 snapshot frames instead, about one every second of content.

Skip bad. Slip good. :)

- Craig
 

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Milominderbinder2 said:
TiVo locks one frame on screen and then you are blind to the next 719 frames. Skip goes blind for the next 29 .9 seconds of content. Slip gives you 36 snapshot frames instead, about one every second of content.

Skip bad. Slip good. :)

- Craig
As I said in another thread on the topic:

The original point you had made (as I understood it) was that the skip was blind for 2 minutes of "skips". I see a frame every 30 seconds, and am thus able to tell if the commercial break is over. If I've overshot, I hit instant replay a time or two, and I'm at the restart of my program. Obviously, skip is not looking at every frame - it would then be a "slip". My point is that I can very quickly get through a commercial break of any length, be it 120 seconds or 133.5 seconds faster than a "slip".

I understand you (and many others like slip). Enjoy!
 

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Tried the 30 sec. slip today for the first time. I love it! This is by far the best improvement the software updates have added. Hopefully the stability issues are fixed. I will find out tonight. The last 2 Thursdays ended up with missed recordings.
 

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Milominderbinder2 said:
Replay is designed to work with Slip to put you close to where you expected to be.
Does this imply that replay will skip back more/less than 6 seconds when pressed during a slip or is replay still only 6 seconds even when pressed during a slip?
 

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pgiralt said:
Does this imply that replay will skip back more/less than 6 seconds when pressed during a slip or is replay still only 6 seconds even when pressed during a slip?
That's an interesting question. From a usage standpoint, though, the skip-back is a great way to exit FF and 30s Slip.
 
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