[RobG]

Now that I finally have a 622 that works (knock on wood -- it's been running good for about two months)... guess #4 was the charm, it'd be nice if I could actually get my dish aimed so I could get all of my HD channels.

Basically, I can't find 129 no mater what I do.

Here's what happens... on 110 I have 54, on 119 43, and on 129 it says I have 110 at 45. This is on Transponder 11.

I've never been able to get the signal strength any greater than that. BTW, this is in the greater San Jose area, but there are no buildings or trees or anything in the way. I have a clear view of the sky in all directions.

Using tips from this forum months ago, I used aluminum foil and covered the outermost LNBs (110 and 129), but when I do, I lose all signal. I tried re-pointing the dish to find 119. Nothing.

If I cover the 110 and 119 LNBs (the center and right-hand one), I get 119 back.

Using this logic, I moved the dish to the left a few degrees til I got a signal again (having all three LNBs uncovered). Now when set to 119, it thinks it sees 110. Again, I tried covering the outer two LNBs, and lost all signal again. Only leaving 129 open would I get any indication of a signal. I've therefore assumed that this particular test isn't going to do any good.

BTW, I purchased another 1000.2 LNB just in case it might be bad, and it made no difference.

My receiver's software version is L512. The cabling is a single cable from the 1000.2 LNB to DPPlus Separator, and into the back of the receiver. I've verified a dozen times that the connections are all correct.

Is there anything else I can do before I try to hunt down a professional installer to come out and figure out what's wrong?

Rob

 

[RickDee]

Now that I finally have a 622 that works (knock on wood -- it's been running good for about two months)... guess #4 was the charm, it'd be nice if I could actually get my dish aimed so I could get all of my HD channels.

Basically, I can't find 129 no mater what I do.

Here's what happens... on 110 I have 54, on 119 43, and on 129 it says I have 110 at 45. This is on Transponder 11.

I've never been able to get the signal strength any greater than that. BTW, this is in the greater San Jose area, but there are no buildings or trees or anything in the way. I have a clear view of the sky in all directions.

Using tips from this forum months ago, I used aluminum foil and covered the outermost LNBs (110 and 129), but when I do, I lose all signal. I tried re-pointing the dish to find 119. Nothing.

If I cover the 110 and 119 LNBs (the center and right-hand one), I get 119 back.

Using this logic, I moved the dish to the left a few degrees til I got a signal again (having all three LNBs uncovered). Now when set to 119, it thinks it sees 110. Again, I tried covering the outer two LNBs, and lost all signal again. Only leaving 129 open would I get any indication of a signal. I've therefore assumed that this particular test isn't going to do any good.

BTW, I purchased another 1000.2 LNB just in case it might be bad, and it made no difference.

My receiver's software version is L512. The cabling is a single cable from the 1000.2 LNB to DPPlus Separator, and into the back of the receiver. I've verified a dozen times that the connections are all correct.

Is there anything else I can do before I try to hunt down a professional installer to come out and figure out what's wrong?

Rob

My reaction is that your skew is not correct. When my 1000.2 was installed it was peaked on 129 which in turn decreased the 110 a little, but in well over a year since then I have not had any problems with any of the satellites.

 

[phrelin]

I have never been able to get a signal higher that 45 on 129° and in perfect weather most transponders deliver something in the 30's with a few, like tps 6, showing in the mid-20's. This is from a wing dish.

 

[RobG]

Where can I re-verify that my coordinates are correct? I've been Googling but haven't found a site that gives me a specific azimuth, elevation and skew for a Dish 1000.

Rob

 

[RobG]

Followup.. found a list on the Dish Network site, they claim 152/46/81 for zip 95112. That's what I've been using all along...

Rob

 

[phrelin]

I use http://www.dishpointer.com/ which generated for your zip for 129:

Elevation: 46.1°
Azimuth (true): 191.5°
Azimuth (magn.): 176.9°
LNB Skew: 9.1°
Dish Skew: 90.0°

and for 110:

Elevation: 44.9°
Azimuth (true): 160.8°
Azimuth (magn.): 146.2°
LNB Skew: -15.2°
Dish Skew: 90.0°

 

[RobG]

Okay so based on that, it looks like I should aim it around 161 deg, and my skew should be 2 deg off axis, either 88 or 92?

Rob

 

[RobG]

Argh, this is maddening.

I went outside. Rechecked to ensure everything was plumb and level. Set Skew to 90, peaked the signal on 119. Got it to 60.

Rotated the skew down to 81 like the other specs said... could barely see 110... got I think 13. Could see nothing on 129 at all.

I played with azimuth and elev a smidge more, got 110 to 41, but now under 129 it's back to thinking it sees 110 at 32. WTF?

Does 129 actually exist? Or is it part of some vast satellite conspiracy designed to drive me insane? (because if it is, it's working nicely)

Rob

 

[ssmith10pn]

Is this a 1000.2?


Cover your outside LNBs and peak the dish on 119.

You really need a meter. You can't dial one in with a receiver. It reacts too slow.

 

[RickDee]

Followup.. found a list on the Dish Network site, they claim 152/46/81 for zip 95112. That's what I've been using all along...

Rob

The booklet from my 1000 dish gives the following for your ZIP. I don't have the booklet for the 1000.2, but I think they're the same:

ZIP: 951XX

AZ: 160

EL: 46

Skew: 87

And this is for the 1000.2 from DishPointer.Com:

Dish Setup Data View dish alignment line in Google Earth
Latitude: 37.342°
Longitude: -121.882°

Name: Dish 1000.2 (110W, 119W, 129W)
Distance: 37305km

Elevation: 46.6°
Azimuth (true): 175.3°
Azimuth (magn.): 160.7°
LNB Skew: -3.8°
Turn counter-clockwise standing behind the dishTurn clockwise standing behind the dish
Dish Skew: 86.2°

 

[RobG]

In my original post of this thread, I mentioned that I already tried covering the outer LNBs and when I do so, I can see NOTHING at all.

Rob

 

[yovinman]

In my original post of this thread, I mentioned that I already tried covering the outer LNBs and when I do so, I can see NOTHING at all.

Rob

Rob, I am in your zip code and I went with 2 dishes. A Dish500 for 110 and 119 and a separate 24" dish for 129. I used a DPP-44 switch. Not had a problem in over a year. 129 is very tricky in our area using one dish. I have noticed that many installers in this zip code use two dishes as evidenced by the dishes on people's houses. If one dish is a must, I think you are going to need a meter since a very slight tweak in azimuth or elevation makes a huge difference that a receiver will not show in real time. PM me if you want to discuss further.

Vince