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Hey all!

I currently have a 2 room setup with a DVR625 and I'm leasing the DVR625. In the back of it I have two kinds of splitters. One splits the satellite signal into two and those two connect to the back of the DVR625. The other is a diplexer with In/Out, Sat, and TV.

I have a guy that will sell me a HD DVR for $150 (he's switching away from dish). It's 1.5 years old and he has to go home to look at the model number, but I assume its going to be the 921 or the 942.

I have several questions about switching that hopefully I can get some input on before I call the retard that will surely answer the phone at dish.

1. If the HD DVR is a 921, 942 or a 622 will I need any additional equipment or will the splitters I have by exactly what I need to plug right into the HD DVR?

2. I don't know if his DVR is still using a card or not, but mine definitly has no card. Would this affect anything if his was using a card and my current setup does not?

3. What are the big advantages of having the new Vip622 over the 921 or 942?

Thanks!
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If you want to REPLACE the 625 with an HD DVR, your cables can be used as they are now to the 625. But all you have gained is SD recording with more disk space. You didn't say what the TV connection on the diplexer connects to. The diplexer could be bringing an OTA antenna signal in to where the 625 is located, or it could be used to carry the 625's TV2 output back to the other room. If the former, you would gain OTA HD locals with a 921/942/622. If the latter, you would need some form of OTA antenna to get OTA digitals (HD).

If you want to subscribe to any HD channels from DISH, a 921/942 wouldn't do you any good. The advantage to the 622 is it can be used to subscribe to a DishHD package. You can't with a 921/942 - they are now OTA HD only except to someone that already had a subscription to the previous HD channel offerings. If you do want HD channels via satellite, you will also need an additional dish pointing to 61.5 or 129 and to replace the LNB you presently have on the Dish 500 with a DP Plus Twin LNB.
 

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Wow, thats exactly what I needed to know. So basically the 921/942 is a regular SD DVR like I already have but it is also a HD tuner for OTA channels?

My Plasma already has a HD tuner built in and I have an antenna plugged in to watch the OTA HD channels.

So if I want the DishHD package with 30 HDTV channels it looks like the 622 is only only option.

As for the diplexer question there is actually two of them, one at the back of my 625 and then another outside the house. From the one ouside the house the cable goes back inside to my second TV.

Reguardless, if I got the 622 I will have to get an installer to come out and hook everything up it seems.
 

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pcm2a said:
Wow, thats exactly what I needed to know. So basically the 921/942 is a regular SD DVR like I already have but it is also a HD tuner for OTA channels?

My Plasma already has a HD tuner built in and I have an antenna plugged in to watch the OTA HD channels.

So if I want the DishHD package with 30 HDTV channels it looks like the 622 is only only option.

As for the diplexer question there is actually two of them, one at the back of my 625 and then another outside the house. From the one ouside the house the cable goes back inside to my second TV.

Reguardless, if I got the 622 I will have to get an installer to come out and hook everything up it seems.
Just upgrade your lease from the 625 to the 622 and E8 will come in and replace the equipment and get your rebates off your bill. You'll be a lot happier in the long run.
 

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A 942 would be more value to me because I already subscribe to an older HD Pak & Voom channels (MPEG2 HD channels). You could split the antenna signal to feed both the TV and an HD DVR to record the OTA HD as well with any of the HD DVRs. The 622 lease deal comes with all the switches, cable, and labor to do the install for $199.

I assume that the 625 is the only receiver on your account now. It may or may not have a lease fee on your bill now. The 622 upgrade from DISH will produce a $6/month lease fee - even if it is the only receiver on the account. If you happen to subscribe to AEP now and were thinking of upgrading to HD Platinum ($15 increase), it might actually cost you the same each month to have both the 625 and 622 active on your account. Put the 622 where the 625 is (with its TV2 going to the Master bedroom?) and relocate the 625 in any other room (including the master). If you subscribe to some ATxxx package, keeping the 625 would add its $5.98 DVR fee each month.

As whatchel1 mentioned, there is a $10/month rebate for 10 months with a new subscription to a DishHD package that covers (over 10 months) half the cost of the $200 upgrade.
 

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I got so many "fees" on my bill it's insane. I actually have a 4 room setup, a 625 downstairs and a 322 upstairs. I subscribe to the top 180 package ($49.95) but with all the fees by bill is around $90. There are lease fees, DVR fees, no phone line fees, I think there is one fee on there called "kick to the nuts".

I assume that if I kept the 625 (moved it upstairs) and added the 622 I would incur and additional $6 lease fee, the $10-15 increase for adding HD channels, and a fee for the DVR recording. Where if I let them take the 625 away I would just be adding on $10-15 for the HD channels.

Does the $199 fee reinstate me in any kind of a contract? Currently I am out of my contract with them.
 

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pcm2a said:
Wow, thats exactly what I needed to know. So basically the 921/942 is a regular SD DVR like I already have but it is also a HD tuner for OTA channels?

My Plasma already has a HD tuner built in and I have an antenna plugged in to watch the OTA HD channels.

So if I want the DishHD package with 30 HDTV channels it looks like the 622 is only only option.

As for the diplexer question there is actually two of them, one at the back of my 625 and then another outside the house. From the one ouside the house the cable goes back inside to my second TV.

Reguardless, if I got the 622 I will have to get an installer to come out and hook everything up it seems.
PCM,

Actually the 921 or 942 are both HD receivers with integrated DVR. Both receivers are capable of receiving ATSC local OTA signals as well MPEG2 HD service via satellite.

Dish is migrating to MPEG4 for HD and eventually SD. Neither the 921/942 are capable of using MPEG4 compression. Currently some of the HD content is NOT MPEG4 but Dish really doesn't want ANYMORE NEW HD subscribers without MPEG4 receivers.

If you take advantage of the Dishn' it up program you will get the upgrade to a VIP622 for $199 which includes the receiver as well as installation which includes any and all needed hardware to get any and all Core Dish Programing and HD services. The only caveat to this program is its' a lease that adds $6.00 per month to your programing package. At the moment there is a rebate program as well which will allow you to get a $10 per month discount on your programing package for 10 months, this is only available under the lease program, but is available to all current Dish Subscribers. New to Dish subscribers are eligible for a $20 per month rebate for 10 months.

In the end the lease program will not incur as much in captial outlay up front as it would to purchase and upgrade your system. It will take YEARS in savings of $6.00 per month to make that money back.

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pcm2a said:
I got so many "fees" on my bill it's insane. I actually have a 4 room setup, a 625 downstairs and a 322 upstairs. I subscribe to the top 180 package ($49.95) but with all the fees by bill is around $90. There are lease fees, DVR fees, no phone line fees, I think there is one fee on there called "kick to the nuts".

I assume that if I kept the 625 (moved it upstairs) and added the 622 I would incur and additional $6 lease fee, the $10-15 increase for adding HD channels, and a fee for the DVR recording. Where if I let them take the 625 away I would just be adding on $10-15 for the HD channels.

Does the $199 fee reinstate me in any kind of a contract? Currently I am out of my contract with them.
PCM,

Yes, 18 months.

John
 
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