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Hey guys I understand the uber basics of a SWM, but what are the pros and cons of having one in an established setup?

Thanks!
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Allowed me to pull 1 line off the floor from the HR20 to the wall in the living room. Made the GF happier. She hates cables.
I am moving this to the "DIRECTV General Discussion" forum.
Michael D'Angelo;1723425 said:
I am moving this to the "DIRECTV General Discussion" forum.
Sorry bout that Michael, had just popped up and out of the SWM poll there and instead of hijacking that thread with my Q I posted a new one.
rahlquist said:
Hey guys I understand the uber basics of a SWM, but what are the pros and cons of having one in an established setup?

Thanks!
If you're already established, assuming you already have all the wires run that you need, there may not be an advantage.

However, if you want to add a DVR and you already have all four lines from the dish in use then you need to either, get another dish, get an external multiswith, or get SWM.

The advantage then would be that you would only need to run a single line to a DVR to supply both tuners. You could potentially just reroute a wire from one of your other DVRs to the new one and be good to go.

Let's say you have two DVRs (both SWM capable), you could add two more on the same four lines (with some rerouting).

Let's say your have a room with some old RG59. It will work without upgrading to RG6. My HR21-100 is currently running on a 40' run of RG59 with zero issues.

My 2¢.

Mike
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rahlquist said:
Sorry bout that Michael, had just popped up and out of the SWM poll there and instead of hijacking that thread with my Q I posted a new one.
No problem. :)
I'm not sure there are any cons with putting it in an established setup...only pros as far as i can tell.
SWM is the futrue if you ask me. No more messey installs. Single wire runs to each DVR. Only pro's to me also.
Crud and I just ran a 2nd coax to my daughters room last month for her DVR. How hard would it have been for me to get a SWM?
rahlquist said:
Crud and I just ran a 2nd coax to my daughters room last month for her DVR. How hard would it have been for me to get a SWM?
Not too hard at all.

Solidsignal carries them.

Even better try dave29. He is a source of info.

Mike
So an 8ch SWM could handle 4 SWM capable DVRs? Are HR20-100, R16-300 both SWM compatable?
HR20 is, I don't think the R16 is compatible but I am not sure.
rahlquist said:
So an 8ch SWM could handle 4 SWM capable DVRs? Are HR20-100, R16-300 both SWM compatable?
Yes I have both and both are SWM capable. Rock solid here.
Now that SWMs are easily obtained, the only real con is they only have 3 legacy outputs for non-SWM capable receivers, as opposed to an 8-way multiswitch which can feed 8 legacy and current tuners.
Dirac said:
Now that SWMs are easily obtained, the only real con is they only have 3 legacy outputs for non-SWM capable receivers, as opposed to an 8-way multiswitch which can feed 8 legacy and current tuners.
I don't see it as a con.

The folks typically discussing this here already have a Zinwell WB68. All you need are 4 splitters on the dish downlinks to provide input to both an existing WB68 and an SWM-8. Then you can feed 8 tuners (+ 3 more legacy) via SWM and 8 tuners by WB68 - a max of 19 total....
Are you sure you posted in the right thread?
dbmaven said:
The folks typically discussing this here already have a Zinwell WB68.
True... I was looking at one vs. the other. Then it is correct that there really is no con in adding the SWM to an established setup, other than the normal factors of adding additional equipment to any working setup.

I think we've got this one answered every single way possible now. :)
Dirac said:
I think we've got this one answered every single way possible now. :)
One more.

There IS one potential con to adding the SWM technology to your existing setup. Specifically the SWM LNB has no legacy support at all.

And an existing WB68 doesn't solve that particular lack of support. You have a single line coming from the dish which you can feed 8 tuners with. No more.

Not a big deal if the SWM LNB is going into a new install, as they'll just insure the receivers being installed are SWM capable. And, for most subs, I imagine that 4 DVRs in the house is going to be enough., so it's not a big deal.

BUT, if you've already got DirecTV and you're looking to upgrade to SWM on your own, this is the potential pitfall to the SWM LNB that you have to be aware of.

If you need legacy, or think you might need more than 8 tuners, the solution is to go with the SWM-8...
I'm renovating a house right now. All of the walls are open. Is there even a point to running two RG6 cables through the walls to the roof, or should I just run one, now that SWM is officially available?
rbrome said:
I'm renovating a house right now. All of the walls are open. Is there even a point to running two RG6 cables through the walls to the roof, or should I just run one, now that SWM is officially available?
I would run two lines and just use a normal multi-switch instead of having to spend the money for the SWM.

I would also suggest running an ethernet cable to each location.
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