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· DBSTalk E* Spot Beam Guru
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ECHOSTAR-7 119w

Transponder 3:
North-West(#3s3)
8610-KOMO(ABC)Seattle
8611-KIRO(CBS)Seattle
8612-KING(NBC)Seattle
8613-KCPQ(Fox)Seattle
8614-KTWB(WB)Seattle
8615-KSTW(UPN)Seattle
8616-KCTS(PBS)Seattle
8617-KONG(IND)Seattle
South-California(#3s5)
8005-KCOP(UPN)Los Angeles
8006-KCET(PBS)Los Angeles
8007-KCAL(IND)Los Angeles
8008-KMEX(UNI)Los Angeles
8790-KGTV(ABC)San Diego
8791-KFMB(CBS)San Diego
8792-KNSD(NBC)San Diego
8793-XETV(Fox)Tijuana
8794-KSWB(WB)San Diego
8796-KPBS(PBS)San Diego
Kansas City(Great Plains)(#3s8)
8437-KMCI(IND)Lawerence
South-Florida(#3s15)
8834-WBZL(WB)Miami
8835-WBFS(UPN)Miami
8836-WPBT(PBS)Miami
8838-WLTV(UNI)Miami
8839-WSCV(TEL)Miami
8860-WPBF(ABC)West Palm Beach
8861-WPEC(CBS)West Palm Beach
8862-WPTV(NBC)West Palm Beach
8863-WFLX(FOX)West Palm Beach
8865-WTVX(UPN)West Palm Beach
8866-WXEL(PBS)West Palm Beach
8867-WFGC(CTN)West Palm Beach

Transponder 5:
Carolinas(#5s14)
8180-WLOS(ABC)Asheville
8181-WSPA(CBS)Spartanburg
8182-WYFF(NBC)Greenville
8650-WSOC(ABC)Charlotte
8651-WBTV(CBS)Charlotte
8652-WCNC(NBC)Charlotte
8653-WCCB(Fox)Charlotte
8654-WWWB(WB)Charlotte
8655-WJZY(UPN)Charlotte
8656-WTVI(PBS)Charlotte
8657-WAXN(ind)Charlotte
8661-WNSC(PBS)Charlotte
East-Texas(#5s10)
8370-KTRK(ABC)Houston
8371-KHOU(CBS)Houston
8372-KPRC(NBC)Houston
8373-KRIV(Fox)Houston
8374-KHWB(WB)Houston
8375-KTXH(UPN)Houston
8375-KUHT(PBS)Houston
Arizona(#5s6)
8320-KNXV(ABC)Phoenix
8321-KPHO(CBS)Phoenix
8322-KPNX(NBC)Phoenix
8323-KSAZ(Fox)Phoenix
8324-KASW(WB)Phoenix
8325-KUTP(UPN)Phoenix
8326-KAET(PBS)Phoenix
8327-KTVK(ind)Phoenix
Great Lakes(#5s11)
8590-KDNL(ABC)St.Louis
8591-KMOV(CBS)St.Louis
8592-KSDK(NBC)St.Louis
8593-KTVI(Fox)St.Louis
8594-KPLR(WB/UPN)St.Louis
8595-KETC(PBS)St.Louis
8710-WZZM(ABC)Grand Rapids
8711-WMMT(CBS)Kalamazoo
8712-WOOD(NBC)Grand Rapids
8713-WXMI(FOX)Grand Rapids
8716-WGVU(PBS)Grand Rapids

Transponder 7:
Carolinas(#7s14)
8183-WHNS(Fox)Greenville
8184-WBSC(WB)Greenville
8185-WASV(UPN)Asheville
8750-WTVD(ABC)Raleigh
8751-WRAL(CBS)Raleigh
8752-WNCN(NBC)Raleigh
8753-WRAZ(Fox)Raleigh
8754-WLFL(WB)Raleigh
8755-WRDC(UPN)Raleigh
8756/8190-WUNC(PBS)
North-California(7s4)
8220-KGO(ABC)San Francisco
8221-KPIX(CBS)San Francisco
8222-KNTV(NBC)San Jose
8223-KTVU(Fox)San Fancisco
8224-KBWB(WB)San Francisco
8225-KBHK(UPN)San Francisco
8226-KQED(PBS)San Francisco
8227-KICU(IND)San Jose
Great Lakes(#7s11)
8494-WGN(WB)Chicago
8495-WPWR(UPN)Chicago
8496-WTTW(PBS)Chicago
8721-WOTV(ABC)Battle Creek
8720-WTLJ(TBN)Grand Rapids

Transponder 9:
Gulf Coast(#9s12)
8050-WJSU(ABC)Birmingham
8051-WIAT(CBS)Birmingham
8052-WVTM(NBC)Birmingham
8053-WBRC(Fox)Birmingham
8054-WTTO(WB)Birmingham
8055-WABM(UPN)Birmingham
8056-WBIQ(PBS)Birmingham
Utah(#9s7)
8530-KTVX(ABC)Salt Lake City
8531-KUTV(CBS)Salt Lake City
8532-KSL(NBC)Salt Lake City
8533-KSTU(Fox)Salt Lake City
8534-KUWB(WB)Salt Lake City
8535-KPNZ(UPN)Salt Lake City
8536-KUED(PBS)Salt Lake City
8537-KJZZ(IND)Salt Lake City
8540-KBYU(PBS)Provo
8541-KULC(EDU)Ogden
8542-KTMW(FAM)Salt Lake City
Hawaii(#9s1)
8900-KITV(ABC) Honolulu
8901-KGMB(CBS)Honolulu
8902-KHNL(NBC)Honolulu
8904-KFVE(UPN/WB)Honolulu
8905-KHET(PBS)Honolulu
8906-KBFD(ind)Honolulu
8907-KWHE(rel)Honolulu
8908-KIKU(ind)Honolulu

Summary to date: 13 active spotbeams out of 15. The Gulf Coast (TP9), Great Lakes(TP5&7), Carolinas (TP5&7), Utah(TP9) & Hawaii(TP9) are using all their spot beam TPs. North California (TP5&7) and East-Texas (TP5&7) are only using TP7. Arizona (TP5&7) is only using TP5. North-West (TP1&3), South-California (TP1&3), South-Florida (TP1&3), Kansas City (TP1&3) are only using TP3.
 

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Nice to see hard work rewarded. we have god and a guru. I can't wait tosee what's next.
 

· DBSTalk E* Spot Beam Guru
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Thank's Scott. I'm just glad I can help. I hope that we can avoid the situation we had with DTV-4S by getting E* info posted before or right after something happens.
 

· DBSTalk E* Spot Beam Guru
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Thank's guys. Spotbeams are nothing new. The rest of the world has been using them for the past 10 years. I got a lot of practice with beams when I had a BUD. Most of the satellites in the Atlantic Ocean region use spotbeams. Of course those sats only use 5 or 6 beams, but it provided a good foundation in spotbeam technology.
 

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Originally posted by JohnH
Wow, they actually "moved" them, too. Wonder how long before they put something new on 110 in the vacated space?
What they are putting on 110 in the vacated space are channels that had to be crammed into 119 around January 1st in order to comply with the must-carry court order.

As a result, there has been some improvement in PQ, for example, I no longer see that ugly effect where a face will change shape when it moves slightly...
 

· DBSTalk E* Spot Beam Guru
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Nothing is going to goto 110 for a while the free space is supposed to be used to test Echo-8. Seven of the 119 spots have duplicate spots on Echo-8 those side sat loclas will probably go there. In addition some cities will stay national. Nashville, Denver, & Minn/St.P have no spots & the nets from Dallas, Atlanta, Denver, Chicago will stay CONUS (along with NYC & LA on 119) A couple other cities will have to stay CONUS on 110 because there wasn't enough space on the allocated beam for all the stations in all the cities. When everything is done and moved at 119 & 110 (ncluding side sat locals) E* will have 6 vacant TPs at 110. Probably to add more cities in addition to new cities that will be on spots such as Las Vegas which has a spot on 110.
 
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Bryan,

Any specualtion on what else is in store for the Gulf Coast beam on E VII. I live in New Orleans and would love to see the big 4 on the beam and anything else on 61.5. Any other use for the left over capacity on this spot. Seems like a waste just using it for the 7 Birmingham stations.
 

· DBSTalk E* Spot Beam Guru
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JohnQ, it does seem kind of a waste, but if they are using a 10 to 1 compression ratio then there is room for 3 channels. If they use a 12 to 1 compression then there is room for 5 channels. Either way it isn't enough to add New Orleans. Also there are probably some stations in the Birmingham market that have to be added, but haven't got their signal to the POP yet like WLDM(HSN) and you never know what PAX and TBN are going to do I wouldn't doubt that those netlets have a conditional clause that says if their national feed is dropped then the stations have to be carried.
 

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Wrate, Echo-8 is due to be launched in June. It will probably be active sometime in late July to early August. It is supposed to test at 110. It is basically the same type satellite as E-7 even some of the beams coverages are identical. There are some differences though. E-8 has 16 beams, but that beam is combined with other beams so that a couple of the TPs can be used 6 times instead of 5. In this configuration some of the beams use 3 TPs instead of 2 like E-7.

For instance E-7 uses TPs 1,3,5,7,9 5 times (25 spot TPs) E-8 uses TPs 1&3 6 times, TPs 5&7 5 times, and TP 9 4 times (26 spot TPs). On E-7 10 spotbeams use 2 TPs and 5 use 1 TP, on E-8 3 spotbeams use 3 TPs, 5 spotbeams use 2 TPs, and 7 spotbeams use 1TP.
 

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Bryab27,

Thanks a lot for your prompt and very interesting answer.

I have one last question:

Will E8 replace the 30 conus transponders that E5 is transmitting now? E7 is now transmitting all 16 conus transponders at 119W, this is why I ask. But, it also seems that 30 conus and 26 spot beam transponers would be an awful lot for E8 alone. :)

Again, thanks for the very interesting answer.

Wrate
 

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Just when you think you have E* figured, they throw a curve. Tr. 3 went to spot beam at 4:30am EDT. The Seattle stations according to reports are now on spot beam. Likely the LA and NY non-net stations and a Florida city(Miami) are next, if not already.
 
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