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Theory on why so little new HD on D-11

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This is just my theory, I have absolutely nothing to base this on.

I have noticed over the last month that there is more pixelation than I've ever seen before on Directv. To clarify, I see it on many channels that are now on D-11. Now it is sporadic and is not so bad as to ruin the viewing experience in any way. Over the course of say a movie or football game I may see slight pixelation 3 to 6 times. also notice occaisional lip sync issues as well. I This is not something I had prior to D-11 going active. My main HR20-700 runs the latest CE software and my other HR20-700 runs the latest national release software.

I have had a new LNB installed, peaked my signal strength(not that it was ever weak), signals on all satellites is very good and always has been.

I guess I'm wondering if others are seeing any of this. I'm also wondering if Directv is aware of these problems and that maybe this could be the reason for the slow release of new HD national channels.

Just thought I would throw this out there to see what others thought.
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They are concentrating on HD locals for many of us. They are also working on contracts. I would imagine when the contracts are done, they will add the channels.
I have not noticed any pixelation at all.
swans said:
They are also working on contracts. I would imagine when the contracts are done, they will add the channels.
How could they not have the contracts in place for the remaining HBO channels?:confused:
What about Encore HD, which is part of the same company as DirecTV? Dish has it, but not DirecTV.
I'm more interested in your pixelation issues. Are you seeing this on all satellites? How slight, and how often? When you say your signal strength is good, what numbers are you getting?
I've noticed quite a bit of pixelation on my TV in one room but it's fine in the other. I'm beginning to suspect it is the power source because I've done everything, from replacing RG6 cables to replacing the BBC's. I'm only having trouble with the MPEG4 channels but none on the MPEG2's and standard definition channels.
I am experiencing no non weather related pixelation issues nor audio sync issues. Multiple HR boxes. SWM installation.
Somewhat echo what others have already said.

But really, if I had a lowly buck (what can one buy with that these days?) for every thread that started out like this, with little to no real information, I could retire...

Hey, wait! I'm already retired!

At least the OP actually has a location on planet Earth (South Carolina), most of thee types of posts list places on 'bizzaro world', like ''high on the plains' or 'deep in the swamps', etc.

It might just be that lots of folks simply don't, or haven't, had any problems with DirecTV11 because.... their Ka/Mpeg4/HD locals come off Spaceway2 (at 99deg), and they watched their dish install like a hawk, and the install was done (and checked) right the 'first time'.

Actually, I could have had it done by the folks I consult for MDU installs, but when I had my AT9/Sidecar dish installed, it was literally right at the dawn of the Ka era, early 2006. And I wanted to see just how good/bad the local Ironwood folks really were.

Pretty good, actually. But the guy didn't have any monopoles to stabilize the install, on the side of the house, they hadn't gotten any from the DirecTV warehouse. Guy was right up front about it, told me that the dish would probably get wacked out of alignment, but that as soon as they got the stock in he'd be back out to realign it and install the poles.

And he did, some 2 months later (I live in a high wind area, and it indeed was a bit out of skew by that time). The install has survived 2.5 years since with zero problems, except the guy who showed up a couple months (yet) later to 'install' a HR20 DVR. All he had to do is 'plug in in' (all cables were already done previously, and he was shown this right at the start), but he proceeded to try and re-run all kinds of things. I kicked him off, and his supervisor showed up the next morning (a Saturday!) and finished up the job in <30min.

Not to say that I haven't seen the same outfit kicked off other installs as well. The variability of smarts is pretty wide.

There still needs to be a 'sticky' with listings of minimal signal strengths here. Obviously, the spot beams are variable, but now that both 'big boys' are up at 99/103 with conus beams, if they are good and strong the spots (if any) will be as well.

And 'write down your readings'! Check them out every few days/weeks, especially after whether 'events' and such. Be Pro-Active. Catch the small problems before they become big ones!

But let me add my 2cents on the loading (or.. non-loading) of DirecTV11 with all kinds of 'new goodies'.

The major 'user' of the new bandwidth is, of course, the Sunday Ticket Superfan/HD. 3-4 full transponders worth. I think they wanted to simply get through at least a week of that under their belt, so to speak, before ramping up more stuff. And then there's always those pesky transmission deals, although folks have pointed out that lots to the major adds are companies they already to more than a fair amount of business with.

But I think the 'hump' is over now. Yep, it all worked, worked just fine. Now back to the business of adding the 'regular' stuff.
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Stuart Sweet said:
I'm more interested in your pixelation issues. Are you seeing this on all satellites? How slight, and how often? When you say your signal strength is good, what numbers are you getting?
Signal strength is all high 80s to up 100 on all satellites. Pixelation is just momentarily maybe 3 to six times over a 2 to 3 hour period, , just seems to be on channels that are carried on D-11 per channel map, but not every channel and not all the time.

I did switch out my B-band converters this morning to see if that might have any effect.
I think what going oon is this. Directv knows that if they use up all its capacity on D11 early its going to be more than a year before D12 goes up, E* can easily put more HD up on its new sat and claim leadership. To prevent this D* is playing it's card right and taking their time. It wouldn't look good to be all out of capacity and have 9 months before you can do anything about it. So wait and see what your competition is going to do first then react later!
1948GG said:
And 'write down your readings'! Check them out every few days/weeks, especially after whether 'events' and such. Be Pro-Active. Catch the small problems before they become big ones!
I have been monitoring my signal strength for 3+ years and have always had great signal strengths even on 99 & 103. The lowest readings I have are on 99 all the rest are in upper 80s up to 100.

Also have never had any problems with rain fade. It takes the worst of storms for us to have any rain fade at all and then it just lasts for a very short time.

My install also has monopoles.

Here are my readings on 99:
80, 82, 80, 84, 77, 85, 77, 88
79, 91, 82, 95, 88, 95
I, too, think DirecTv is simply waiting for the competitive pressure to add more channels. i.e. why add the expense of carry if they don't have to?
101:

97, 98, 96, 100, 97, 99, 97, 99
97, 99, 97, 100, 98, 100, 97, 100
96, 0, 97, 98, 98, 100, 97, 100
97, 96, 96, 39, 97, 99, 96, 100

110:

#8 is 91, #10 is 95, #12 is 95, that's all on 110

119:

22 thru 24 are 99, 97, 97
88, 99, 100, 98, 97, 99, 100, 100

99c:

80, 83, 79, 85, 77, 85, 77, 88
79, 91, 84, 95, 89, 95

103c:

96, 91, 94, 88, 94, 89, 92, 89
95, 92, 95, 93, 95, 95

FYI, before they replace the LNB I had readings on 99c, just like 103c
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It doesn't sound like your numbers are out of line on 99c but they are at the point where temporary line-of-sight issues could come into play. A plane that flies by "just right", a tree that sways in the right direction... this sort of temporary signal interruption can be very hard to find.
swans said:
They are concentrating on HD locals for many of us. They are also working on contracts. I would imagine when the contracts are done, they will add the channels.
Herdfan said:
How could they not have the contracts in place for the remaining HBO channels?:confused:
Each channel requires a different set of negotiated standards .. anything could be causing the holdup from someone being on vacation to a few lines going through revisions to technical issues .. all we know for sure is that it's not there at this time.
BlueSnake said:
Pixelation is just momentarily maybe 3 to six times over a 2 to 3 hour period,
Hmmm, this seems pretty normal to me. Heck, I see quick pixelization on my OTA about 2 times an hour and that's been happening for 5-6 years.

Having said that watching a dozen+ HD NFL games yesterday and I didn't notice any pixelization out of the ordinary. I saw some here and there for quick bits but frankly that's "normal" and I've seen it for better part of a decade and don't even notice it.
Stuart Sweet said:
It doesn't sound like your numbers are out of line on 99c but they are at the point where temporary line-of-sight issues could come into play. A plane that flies by "just right", a tree that sways in the right direction... this sort of temporary signal interruption can be very hard to find.
There are no trees that can sway into the line of sight. Maybe planes? What would make my numbers on 99c drop after a new LNB was installed? They used to be as good as 103 before the new LNB.

I also tried to go out and peak the dish, but the numbers that are showing are as good as I could get on 99.
bonscott87 said:
Hmmm, this seems pretty normal to me. Heck, I see quick pixelization on my OTA about 2 times an hour and that's been happening for 5-6 years.

Having said that watching a dozen+ HD NFL games yesterday and I didn't notice any pixelization out of the ordinary. I saw some here and there for quick bits but frankly that's "normal" and I've seen it for better part of a decade and don't even notice it.
That's the kind of pixelization I'm talking about. Thing is I never used to get it at all especially on football (Sunday ticket HD).
Just throwing in my two pennies....

I have had some audio sync problems on the HD channels of TNT, Bravo, and A&E.
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