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My triple-play Frontier plan dropped from $280 to $78 when I got rid of the DVR. I now have YouTube Plus for $55/month. Netflix is free with my T-Mobile plan. Prime Video is included with my Amazon Prime account. I have HBO Max for $55 for a year after an Amex discount. I have Acorn TV at $5 per month and Paramount+ for $90 for a year. I also signed up for three months of free AppleTV+.So my total cost for TV, internet and home phone service is about $150 per month.

We got used to the DVR showing the time for the past ten years or so on our entertainment center. I bought a digital clock for $15 to replace the DVR. That's less than the monthly rent of the DVR.
 

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Just a total falsehood.

First off, only $100 for a cable package?

Average pricing for DirecTV is over $130 a month, even with any services from cable/Sat. you can have Broadcast fees, RSN fees, DVR fees, Box fees.

This is what I have Streaming, no Live TV service and it includes the vast majority of content on Live TV except certain sporting events.

All in yearly prices because of some deals, all commercial free except ESPN+

Hulu with Disney, ESPN+ -$240 (need ESPN+ for the Red Wings).
Paramount+ with Showtime-$129
Peacock-$50
HBOMAX-$149
AMC+-$30
Apple TV-$44 ( bought gift cards when on sale at Costco, paid up until 2026)
MLB-$59 ( wait until May for the better price) need it for the Tigers since I live in Florida now.
Netflix-$240

So, $941 divide by 12 is $78.42

Show me one cable package that is that price with HBO and Showtime.

Then of course, with cable/sat Netflix and Apple TV is not available

So, without the premium stuff, but including sports because DirecTV/Cable has the RSN-
Hulu with Disney, ESPN+ -$240 (need ESPN for the Red Wings).
Paramount+ -$99
Peacock-$50
AMC+-$30
MLB-$59 ( wait until May for the better price) need it for the Tigers since I live in Florida now).

So $478 divide by 12 is, roughly, $40 a month.
 

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Just a total falsehood.

First off, only $100 for a cable package?

Average pricing for DirecTV is over $130 a month, even with any services from cable/Sat. you can have Broadcast fees, RSN fees, DVR fees, Box fees.

This is what I have Streaming, no Live TV service and it includes the vast majority of content on Live TV except certain sporting events.

All in yearly prices because of some deals, all commercial free except ESPN+

Hulu with Disney, ESPN+ -$240 (need ESPN for the Red Wings).
Paramount+ with Showtime-$129
Peacock-$50
HBOMAX-$149
AMC+-$30
Apple TV-$44 ( bought gift cards when on sale at Costco, paid up until 2026)
MLB-$59 ( wait until May for the better price) need it for the Tigers since I live in Florida now.
Netflix-$240

So, $941 divide by 12 is $78.42

Show me one cable package that is that price with HBO and Showtime.

Then of course, with cable/sat Netflix and Apple TV is not available

So, without the premium stuff, but including sports because DirecTV/Cable has the RSN-
Hulu with Disney, ESPN+ -$240 (need ESPN for the Red Wings).
Paramount+ -$99
Peacock-$50
AMC+-$30
MLB-$59 ( wait until May for the better price) need it for the Tigers since I live in Florida now).

So $478 divide by 12 is, roughly, $40 a month.
I have Preferred Xtra / HR54 / AM21 and with my DirecTV promos I'm paying $91/mo out the door. No RSN fee on this package. I also have Cox Gigabit + digital phone (Cox makes you take it or the internet is higher lol) for like $119 I think, but it has a 1.25TB data cap and to get rid of that for streaming is an extra $50/mo. No thanks. Plus, no streaming service has all the Los Angeles locals and I'd lose the OTA integration. Plus Preferred Xtra has a lot more channels. Don't care about sports, so love that I don't pay the $12/mo RSN fee on this package.
 

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I have Preferred Xtra / HR54 / AM21 and with my DirecTV promos I'm paying $91/mo out the door. No RSN fee on this package. I also have Cox Gigabit + digital phone (Cox makes you take it or the internet is higher lol) for like $119 I think, but it has a 1.25TB data cap and to get rid of that for streaming is an extra $50/mo. No thanks. Plus, no streaming service has all the Los Angeles locals and I'd lose the OTA integration. Plus Preferred Xtra has a lot more channels. Don't care about sports, so love that I don't pay the $12/mo RSN fee on this package.
So I was correct, I pay $78 that get the vast majority of content that is on your preferred xtra package ( and more) with HBO, Showtime and Netflix, plus all the exclusive stuff not available to DirecTV, like the shows on Paramount for example.

or a lot cheaper, $40 for the vast majority of content on your Live TV Package and the exclusive stuff.

Gigabit, no data cap, is $100 for me.

So, with Premium, $178 or without $140.

If you did Cox, no data cap, $169 + my no premium, no mlb $35 package, your price would be $204, so a savings of $7, but gain a bunch of content
 

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It's only a comic strip, but I'd like to know what nine streaming services Rat gets for $200/month. I think he's overpaying a lot...
 

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So I was correct, I pay $78 that get the vast majority of content that is on your preferred xtra package ( and more) with HBO, Showtime and Netflix, plus all the exclusive stuff not available to DirecTV, like the shows on Paramount for example.

or a lot cheaper, $40 for the vast majority of content on your Live TV Package and the exclusive stuff.

Gigabit, no data cap, is $100 for me.

So, with Premium, $178 or without $140.

If you did Cox, no data cap, $169 + my no premium, no mlb $35 package, your price would be $204, so a savings of $7, but gain a bunch of content
Doubtful I really need the no data cap. I'm at 300-400GB/mo with only what I'm doing now, so that's $50/mo cheaper.

Don't watch anything on Paramount. Showtime, I think maybe one show. Can't think of anything I watch on HBO. Netflix I get for free (might change when they crack down on that, but I won't lose sleep over losing it) for the once in a blue moon that I want to watch something (which is MAYBE once a quarter -- Netflix is mostly garbage now).

I've sampled most of the VOD providers. Mostly useless to me. OTT services don't have all my locals and its the same price.

Plus as Rat mentioned, I got better things to do with my life then mess around with 9 providers, 9 UIs, 9 bills, etc. Having everything (including OTA) under ONE roof is valuable to me.

Oh yeah, the other issue with other OTT providers (including Cox, the short lived T-Vision, etc) is that they give me West Coast feeds (I'm in California) for nationals. DirecTV gives me the East Coast feeds for nationals. That's a very big deal for me. When I sampled T-Vision, it was extremely jarring to my schedule to have to shift everything 3 hours later. Having east coast feeds on the west coast brings everything into prime time.
 

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It's only a comic strip, but I'd like to know what nine streaming services Rat gets for $200/month. I think he's overpaying a lot...
If you get a Live streaming service plus multiple vod providers, aren't you in that range? Plus, I think Rat is a huge sports fan, so he probably has all the sports services which are expensive.
 

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Streaming Services are hiking prices all the time & will eventually be as much as cable/satellite bills. It might not be right now or in the near future, but they will be. You still will have to pay for the content you want.
That is a ‘duh statement, of course it will go up, everything does.

Do you see Traditional Providers starting a price freeze so streaming can catch up?
 

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That is a ‘duh statement, of course it will go up, everything does.

Do you see Traditional Providers starting a price freeze so streaming can catch up?
No, we see streaming hiking by larger percentages to catch up. ESPN+ just raised their prices 43%. Premium Hulu is going up 9.2%. Netflix, although, not live TV hiked by 11%.

Compare that with DirecTV. My price DROPPED by -11% ;) this year. Just sayin'. If you're wondering how that's possible... I've been on promos for like 10-15 yrs, but in March of this year, I got better ones.
 

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No, we see streaming hiking by larger percentages to catch up. ESPN+ just raised their prices 43%. Premium Hulu is going up 9.2%. Netflix, although, not live TV hiked by 11%.

Compare that with DirecTV. My price DROPPED by -11% ;) this year. Just sayin'. If you're wondering how that's possible... I've been on promos for like 10-15 yrs, but in March of this year, I got better ones.
Your DirecTV price did not go down. It goes up every January. Your discount went up which is not something that is guaranteed like the yearly price increase.

Also you can’t compare prices by percentages. Someone that subscribes to streaming that had a 10% increase is less than my 4% raise on my DirecTV service in dollar figures.
 

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Not everything. 8 pm shows on east feeds show at 5 pm on west. Works fine, though, if you want to watch late night shows.
Stuff I watch on History, Science, ID, etc. get shifted into the 6-7PM PST timeslot. I usually eat at 5pm, then go workout til 6:15pm. By the time I shower and get dressed, all my stuff is recorded and ready to go :). When I tried TVision, I had to watch stuff the next day and was bored all night.
 

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Your discount went up which is not something that is guaranteed like the yearly price increase.
I'll agree with you on that. Although I usually play the ignorant card every Jan "hey, my bill went up by $7, what's going on??" lol and it works pretty well to bring it back down.

Also you can’t compare prices by percentages. Someone that subscribes to streaming that had a 10% increase is less than my 4% raise on my DirecTV service in dollar figures.
It's a bigger percentage.
 

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The thing is, that of those services in the cartoon, if they didn't "cut the cord" how many would they still have? My assumption is that the $200 scenario would include an OTT service. That's just essentially a cable/Sat replacement (same thing, different delivery method), Let's assume that the OTT costs $80 a month. So when comparing apples to apples, it's a $20 savings. But everyone's situation is different. I would assume that the other 8 streaming services are either A) something they would have paid for anyway (I have Sat, but I also have an AP account, Netflix, Disney+ and a couple of inexpensive add ons I got through various promotions.) or B) Might not be something they continually have, i.e. they play the rotating streaming service game....only pay when there's something to watch.

Sure, I predicted that at some point streaming prices would start to rival cable/sat in price point, and especially OTT services are getting closer to that point. I also think, at some point, they will also follow the model that cable/sat has and sell you packages of channels, or, they will consolidate and start to be owned by just a few companies. I think the TV landscape 5 years from now will look completely different, and 10 years from now, even MORE different.
 

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(same thing, different delivery method)
Not. OTT is generally "skinny" packages. On DirecTV Stream the top package is less channels then on my lowly Preferred Xtra. The comparable priced package is 105 channels vs. 220+ on sat. Also, nobody streams CW and some don't have some other channels like PBS.

I have DirecTV (obviously) [legal / paid, but on steep discounts through the loyalty program]. I also get several streaming OTT & VOD services for free through work [all legal -- except for Netflix which is a family password share lol which may go away next year].

So technically I could drop my DirecTV and pay nothing every month since it's covered by all the other free services.

Even without the nuisance of having to pay for "9 streaming services", I still favor DirecTV and keep it. Muscle memory on the channels & shows I watch + full unified interface under one roof + OTA, etc.

Also, not really worth it to keep any of the services with so called "exclusive content" year round. Last show I legit watched on Netflix was Man vs. Bee and I finished that in a day. Only used Amazon Prime recently to watch a movie. Haven't used it in years other wise. Nothing on there.
 
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